Cedar cultivars ID

11 years ago

Hi
I've been collecting Cedar seeds for the last few years and have a few 1 year old trees. at the beginning I thought there are only three kinds of cedars - Himalayan, Lebanon and Atlas cedars. As I observed more and more trees I saw that there are many cultivars of cedars.
so my first question is how likely is it for me to get the same tree as the mother tree from the seeds I got, considering the fact that there are many different cedars around? do they tend to cross breed?

I'd love to get some tips about growing young cedars (soil type, container size, transplants etc.).

secondly, I am going to attach some photos of cedars and would like to know which cultivar is each one of them.

so here's the first one: the badge says cedar of Lebanon, but it doesn't look like the "classic" cedar of Lebanon...

This post was edited by Cumulus-nimbus on Sat, Jan 17, 15 at 20:53

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cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
is it the same as the first one?
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
alsow has a badge "cedar of Lebanon" but looks very different from the previous
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cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
the same badge again... do those weeping branches appear with age or is it a different colt.?
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
all the rest should be Deodar colts as I understand
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
is it the same as 5?
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
that one I like the most. the branches goes less upwards then the other trees.
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
is it the same as 7?
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
and what about this one?
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
arn't they too close to each other? can they both grow mature
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
a young one
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
also lebanon. seems different than all others. which one of those csedars of lebanon is the wild native to the middle east?

Thank you!
Embothrium
11 years ago
Much of the time identifications of these to the species level will be based on details of needles and cones that are not visible in these pictures. The Mediterranean species in particular resemble one another, provide a basis for the genus having been interpreted in the past as consisting of two species - a Mediterranean one and a Himalayan one. There may also have been some crossing of cultivated stocks so that particular individuals can be additionally hard to place - too hard to place from general views such as these.

This post was edited by bboy on Mon, Jan 19, 15 at 16:30
cumulus_nimbus
Original Author
11 years ago
so the different shapes of trees are not necessarily properties of the species / cultivar? if i add close up photos of the needles will it be helpful?
I tried to google for a guide or something but couldn't find something useful.
plantkiller_il_5
11 years ago
You are calling these cultivars,,,which are selected mutations,,,cultivated or cloned to produce same,,,these are species plants maybe with variations
collected seed will produce species plants
even seed collected from dwarf cultivars will GENERALLY produce species plants with some exceptions
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