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rooting BLEs like rhododendron - possibly easier in late winter?

11 years ago
last modified: 11 years ago

For the past 2 winters I'd tried to root some rhodies. First in my house in a thick walled poly storage box with a mini-humidifier powered by USB. (readily found on ebay for only $10-$15 at the time) None of them rooted, and after a while I realized my approach was wrong and I needed bottom heat. I read somewhere that the tops need to be cool and the roots warm. So this winter I moved that box out to my never-below-freezing garage and set a heat mat at 68F. It was near a window but I covered it with sheeting to make sure it never got direct sun. I also switched to professional Dip n Grow from what was probably a lesser rooting product. This time I got a lot of hollies to root, but the couple of rhododendrons struck in December still wouldn't root. I tossed them in frustration in early March when no roots had formed and the edges of the beveled cut on the stem were starting to rot.
However in mid March I noticed the bud swelling on my Nancy Evans on Charles Loomis graft, and decided to cut the competing Charles Loomis branchlet away. I figured, "why waste this" and struck it. Around the same week I accidently snapped a branch off another hyperythrum hybrid , walking past it, and again, figured, why let that go to waste.

(to visualize my garage in winter: picture a 2 car garage about 1/3rd filled with various junk, and 2/3rd so dense with potted plants you can hardly move around LOL)
Well...guess what? The 'Charles Loomis' definitely rooted in 2 months. I can tug it and feel that there are roots. It's sprouting too, as you can see.

The 'Opal Thornton' also seems to be budding up, but I'm afraid to tug on that one yet.

It looks to me like either 1) there was some hormonal signalling at work that meant rooting was more likely later in winter
or 2) the days being longer helped
or 3) the garage being slightly warmer helped. *however*, I had a themometer in the poly storage bin at all times and it was always, IIRC, around the low 60s air temp in there, and obviously 68F soil temp. (I resorted to using an oil/electric radiator to keep the garage above 32F at all times during the deep freezes, so it's logical the box with the 40W heating pad was kept well above that) I don't think it was much warmer in March, generally, because as the garage warmed up the bottom heat mat tended to turn itself off. Last week I completely turned the heat map off, of course, because it was not having to run at all with how hot it was getting. I plan to move everything out to my growing-on protection frame (posted elsewhere on GW) soon after this cool spell.

The only other thing I did differently this time was to hold the cuttings in the rooting solution - recommended dilution which I think was 10:1, for about 3 seconds, instead of a quick instant dip.

Thoughts from anyone else who's gone through the process of trying to master rooting? In any case, I will be rooting many 'Charles Loomis' as it is very heat resistant and apparently accepted a graft of 'Nancy Evans'.

Comments (11)

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Well, there's a caveat to this. I figured I could remove the cutting from its plastic gallon ziploc bag now. Just in 24 hours, the new growth wept and shriveled. I've put it back in to see if it will recover. However I tugged again to be sure, harder, and I'm sure roots are forming. Maybe they just weren't capable of lifting enough water yet? Odd.

  • 11 years ago

    can you tell me what a BLE is ....

    congrats on your successes ...

    ken


  • 11 years ago

    BLE = Broad Leafed Evergreen

  • 11 years ago

    i figured it was silly stupid easy ... its been that kind of day ...

    week???


    year???


    ken

  • 11 years ago

    I used to propagate quite a few rhododendrons, azaleas and Pieris japonicas in the Fall, and by spring they were well rooted. Cuttings were taken several weeks before the first frost.
    My cutting bed is outside with only lath for a roof. It faces north and has bottom heat and misters on a timer. I used Hormodin (sp) as a hormone.
    I should get it going again. Everything is still there, just needs checking out. It was a lot of fun.
    Mike...near Seattle


  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I forgot to clarify that, the thing I found so odd is the buds of the Charles Loomis had started to expand a bit when I struck it, and I thought that made the further chances (that year) of rooting it reduced or impossible. But that doesn't seem to have been the case.
    Luckily my plant of it is growing pretty big, almost 3'X3' now, so I can take plenty of cuttings of it. Next year I think I'll try another round in fall, maybe earlier than late Nov., and a round in early March too.

  • 11 years ago

    So, what is the consensus for best time to take rhodo cuttings? Fall or Spring? Should they be kept cool over winter, or on the warm side? Or cool up top, but warm soil with heating pad?

  • 11 years ago

    I took cuttings from vegetative buds for the most part. The blossoms bud were removed if I had to use those.
    I never took cuttings in the Spring so I have no input on that. Bottom heat in the mid 60s kept the cutting beds relatively warm all winter. As you know, our winters are cool and wet so I didn't have to cover the cuttings in winter. My rooting rate was in the high 90%, although sometimes on some varieties hardly any would root.
    I had good success with Lem's Cameo, considered by some to be difficult to root.
    Mike

    Lem's Cameo


  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks for the info mike.
    Although I got this one to root (I think) - I'm going to try the callus-in-summer method next year. Seems to make sense to me. There were once gardenweb threads discussing this, I myself just saved one of them to a file a while ago but didn't bookmark it. Basically you stick a needle through a semi-hard branch in summer to cause a callus to form, and supposedly it will root more readily in the fall.

  • 11 years ago
    I unintentionally rooted cuttings of Olga Mezzitt. I had 2 planted by the garage and a sheet of ice came flying off the roof and smashed them in pieces, including the wood frames I had around them to protect them. The smashed up shrubs were stuck under a thick sheet of ice. When the ice melted away there where all the stems, nice and green, lying around the plants. Thinking I had nothing left to lose I stuck the stems in an existing bed in an out of site shady area and forgot about them. I did not cover the exposed area with anything. Fast forward to last month. All the stem cuttings were budded out and they were firmly rooted to the ground. I scraped away some of the bark and the stems are nice and green. So, I removed the buds (to let the energy go into the root) and will leave them there until next spring where I will then transplant some and give the rest away.
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