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Spruce ID please!

I bought this seedling from Musser Forests a few years ago, labeled as Picea omorika. It is drastically different from my other P. omorika, and I am second guessing its ID. I planted it relatively close to my driveway expecting the narrow habit of P. omorika. The needles are flat and glossy green on one side and white with stomata bands on the other like my other P. omorika. It doesn't look like a P. abies to me, maybe P. glauca? What are your thoughts as to its ID?


Comments (14)

  • 11 years ago

    Maybe P. glauca, but not too convincing. Agree, not P. omorika nor P. abies. Can you get a close-up of the underside of a shoot, please?

    May need to wait for a few years until it has cones, though!

    Resin


  • 11 years ago

    I was afraid you would say that, Resin! I'll try for an underside shot tomorrow.


  • 11 years ago

    I'm thinking Picea obovata... Kind of similar looking name too...maybe typo or faded tag

  • 11 years ago

    Resin, here are pics of the underside of last year's growth and this year's new growth.




    sc77, you may have it there, seems to match P. obovata from whaI I can tell.

  • 11 years ago

    If it is obovata, I for one would be most interested in periodic updates on its growth/performance, that tree being on my list of interest.

    +oM

  • 11 years ago

    It's not a good time for identification, with the new growth, we don't have the colour of twigs, buds ... wait fall. And remember us.

  • 11 years ago

    P glauca needles would have a slightly disagreeable smell when crushed.


  • 11 years ago

    Sure does look like P. glauca to me ...

  • 11 years ago
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    Clement, very good point. I'll take pics in a few months if I can remember!

    Beng and twrosz - I forgot about the slight skunky smell. I actually compared it to my larger P. glauca on the property - it's pretty darn similar in appearance and smell. I also checked with Musser Forests, and the only other spruce they've sold in the past few years that would match my mystery tree's ID is P. glauca - I think we have winner!



    Well, that tree is planted way too close to my driveway for a P. glauca. Even if it was P. omorika I knew I was pushing it - it's ~4' off the driveway.

  • 11 years ago

    P. glauca grows into a very large tree, sooo best to dig and move it in the autumn or early next spring. This species is native to where I live and is very frequently planted as a shelterbelt or specimen.

  • 11 years ago

    twrosz - I know, I have two on the property that are close to mature, and one youngster at 15' tall. Moving this tree is on the to do list for this fall.

  • 11 years ago

    The light blue-green color does look like P glauca. IMO, these are under-rated/underused trees, at least in cooler climates (z6 and cooler) where they grow well:

  • 11 years ago

    I keep threatening to go down the side roads and locate a few fine specimens to dig and transplant to my yard.

  • 11 years ago

    I really like white spruce - just looking for the narrow habit and bicolored needles of P. omorika for next to our driveway.