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Dixie Golden cross with yellow pear?

11 years ago

Newbie here. Two years ago I grew a fantastic Dixie Golden Giant from seedling and kept some seeds from one fruit. This year I planted them. But the first fruit coming up doesn't look like Dixie Golden. It looks like Yellow Pear, which I also had in my garden. Is this possible? If so, will all my fruit from all my plants be mini? So confused!


Comments (8)

  • 11 years ago

    Did you also save yellow pear seeds ?


  • 11 years ago

    I really don't think so. They're so tiny, and while tasty, just not worth saving. *Maybe* some could have gotten mixed up when I cut the tomato? But I just checked another plant and it seems to be fruiting 'pears' too! What are the chances?

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    "If so, will all my fruit from all my plants be mini? So confused!"

    We don't know what you did to keep the seeds straight so that's between you and them :) But you seem to have the basic question: If a plant is unfortunately cross pollinated from which I saved seeds intending it to be purebred, will all the seeds produce the same tomato? The answer to that question is "No" in general, though there are exceptional cases. You would expect to get different traits on different plants reflecting the cross, since each seed is an independent fusion of genes will segregate into different possible shapes within the realm the the cross-pollination is capable of making. Some seeds (if it truly was the Dixie Golden Giant you save the seeds from) could be normal, true DGG's instead of the accidental cross, depending on where the culpable bee, or whatever, managed to buzz his little butt off. But, on one given particular plant from one particular seed, you most likely would get uniform fruits of whatever the trait the seed has turned out.

    Hope that helps
    PC

  • 11 years ago

    Very helpful, thank you. I did nothing to protect the purity of the pollination, so this is to be expected, I guess. I just somehow wasn't expecting the pear shape to be dominant! I have 20 plants from seeds from the same tomato, so we'll see what happened. I think cross - pollination is more likely than me mixing up a Dixie Golden and a Yellow Pear.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Yes, some tomatoes, notably "dwarfs", are routinely grown in smaller pots and some popular ones include Tumbling Tom, Mohammed, Red Robin, etc. for those sorts of arrangements. For pots the size of yours, there are many dwarfs coming out of the woodwork every day by many dedicated amateur breeders that like the idea of growing tomatoes in pots which seems geared to container and pot gardening. While the overall production doesn't normally reach the potential of the high yielding popular garden tomatoes, some of these are very interesting looking. Remy makes a point to identify some seeds she sells economically if you wanted to browse around there, but she only has a few. Still, it's a friendly site to bum around if you have some time ;-)

    PS, the way Yellow Pear can take over and make a big cloud of pollen I bet, I certainly have no difficulty believing you when you say it could be an accidental cross. If you haven't grown them long enough yet to notice any more subtle difference with the fruits. I wouldn't immediately assume they are just like yellow pear and be patient and maybe anticipate a little surprise or two still. I haven't seen it documented anywhere FWIW, but when getting a very
    large tomato crossed with a very small one I seem to always get the
    small ones. Perhaps someone else has studied this and found something to it, or maybe I'm just imagining it. Fruit size is a complicated trait.

    If you want to experiment, save the seeds from the fruits you have now which you think are crossed and grow a few out next time. That is where you would be likely to see a big fruit magically "appear" and prove your thought they are crossed.

    Cheers
    PC

  • 11 years ago

    The reason I asked " Did you also save yellow pear seeds ? " is that the fruits in the picture looks like "Yellow pear" in shape. Now if the color also turns out to be yellow, it would be hard to believe that what you've got is a cross..

    Wait for the fruits ripen and update the info.

    Sey


  • 11 years ago

    Will do. When i saw the shape, I too thought maybe I had just saved some yellow pear by mistake. But now having thought about it, I'm pretty sure I didn't. I'm interested in why you think the color would be a giveaway, though, since both 'parents' are yellow. Honest question: this is all new to me.

  • 11 years ago

    So some news: out of 21 plants, it appears just ONE will have fruit that is not yellow-pear shaped. I am so excited to see how it turns out!