They're coming along very well indeed! I know you planted Thai Soco seeds on July 3...how are they doing?

That is very quick isn't it, Jericson. Nice growth in such a short time.

Rick

slow growing, not sure if the rest will pop out, only got khz and pbn sprouted so far, s1 not a single one germination still,

yea rick its only 2 weeks and they doing great and they producing new branches too

Yes, they do seem to grow slow. I planted mine 4 days before you planted yours and only now am I seeing 2nd set of true leaves peeping out. Rick gave me my seeds and everyone of them sprouted. I am so eager to have the stem start fattening...guess that won't happen for another couple of weeks or so.

Lovely plants you have there. I only have obesums and one arabicum so I'm not very clued up on the other "breeds". How can you differentiate from an obesum and a socotranum? They look much the same to me

regards

averil UK

Origin from Socotra

"This magnificent species is virtually unknown in cultivation..." - Dimmit & Hanson

A few examples of results of cross-breeding:

Thai Soco's

thai socotranum and adenium socotranum is 2 different species

thai socotranum is hybridized arabicums and many more

adenium socotranum, they considered this as a different species from other adeniums, grows in socatra, they grow extremes slow, probably 1inch per year, you wont see bloom until it reach 10 to 12yrs of age, they grow like a tree, and caudex can go as 4 feet to 5feet wide and can grow around 15 to 20feet, they can live for more than 100yrs or more,
and if you look for my thread with my socotranum they only 3yrs old

I think this one is also a cross-breed of Socotranum

Jericson, I have looked at your other thread. Well I'm exhausted looking at it all lol! Absolutely fantastic the way you try out different growing techniques with great success and your plants are really super. If I am reincarnated I shall be coming to yours as an adenium seed but I don't want my roots removed! Haha

Kind regards

Averil UK

I just want to point out, that an Adenium Thai socotranum is not a species. It's a hybrid/cultivar in horticulture, not a natural hybrid as a result of cross-pollination between two (natural) species. And probably the most of what we buy as specific species (for instance, Adenium obesum) are hybrids, containing genes from different species and hybrids. I would even go as far as saying, that "true" forms/species are virtually non-existent in horticulture. ;-) The Adenium socotranum sold by some Adenium growers could be an exception.

Jericson Pastor, your Thai socos are stunning. I wish I could import such Adeniums. I could, but it's expensive. About 300 USD for an import inspection and license. Add to this a phytosanitary certification from a licensed Adenium grower. :-(

all i needed for mine is phytosanitary certificate, mu only down fall is the damn shipping, shipping is more expensive than the plants itself lol, no wonder the adenium shop here in my area is so expensive, because this guy travels around the world to get his succulents and adeniums, he gets his in thailand his partner with master t down there

The EU plant import is quite restricted. Everything has to be done by the book. :-( And I haven't found any EU Adenium seller which offers Thai socotranums of the size of your plants. Alas, I guess I need to grow them from seeds myself. ;-)

Species & Hybrids

Species

The genus adenium
includes eleven species and some of them, undescribed species so for and
different authors have treated adenium as having a single variable species or
as having several species and varieties. Because of this confusion, we will
often use “species” names in this site as common names, that is,
un-capitalized and un-italicized. We recognize as done by Mark Dimmitt, the
following 11 types as species, distinct in horticulture.

obesum

multiflorum

swazicum

boehmianum

oleifolium

somalense

crispum

arabicum

socotranum

tanzania

oman

Source: http://www.nrsadenium.com/Abena-specieshybrids.php

Rick, was it you who said the only kind you don't have is oman?

-Kadie

I do not have oleifolium, subspecies nova, oman. I will work on these.

Hopefully can share if I am fortunate enough.

Rick

Bump everyone.

I have questions about some of my Adeniums. Whether they're Thai socos, or arabicums?

S1

S1+Chada

Diamond Rose+PBN

Golden Bell

Emerald Crown

Diamond King

Thanks,

Rob