I have no experience with this rose, but the pics are always lovely. My understanding is that it is very much like Eden except that it is red, but I don't remember now where I read that. Sorry.

Kate

I never grew that rose either...

HMF mentions the blooms ball when humid/rainy...

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.36802&tab=32

The parentage of Red Eden is Parentage:seedling of Cappa Magna ® × Ulmer Münster

and the parentage of Eden Climber is Seed: Danse des Sylphes × Händel (Large Flowered Climber, McGredy, 1965) Pollen:Pink Wonder, Cl.

So I assume they are very different roses, despite the name. Pretty in Pink Eden, however is a sport of Eden, so should be similar.

I have 2 Red Edens. On the positive side, the plant is very healthy (no disease problems here) and the foliage is dark green and glossy. One specimen has thrown up 12 foot canes and is trained as a climber. The other is trained as a large shrub and is 8 feet tall x 6 feet wide. They repeat reasonably quickly and grow vigorously. On the negative side, the flowers have no fragrance that I can detect. Also, the flowers tend not to open completely and remain ball-shaped. Overall a nice rose, but I prefer the original Eden.

Sara Ann,

I have the red eden rose. It's supposed to be the climber, but it has never gotten that tall for me. I love this rose! It's beautiful cupped, cabbage type roses are so pretty to me. They come in big clusters an can ball at times but I just help it by pulling it open gently and that seems to work. It flowers for me all season long. It's one of my most reliable roses, even in this terrible heat and humidity. I wish I knew how to post pictures on here, but I'm not that tech savy, lol.

I have one and like her very much. Mine does have a lot of Xmas-ball looking balls, but they can be helped open, and they still look fresh. It's not the rotting or spoiled kind of balling that happens. The petals don't all shatter easily, either, so they stay on the bush a long time and look good. Mine hasn't gotten tall yet, but it does have a rabbit problem each spring, lol. It's bushing out nicely with upright canes, and it is very healthy. It's more fragrant than Eden for me, definitely, but not a strongly scented rose. I have mine in a very hot site, too, and she still blooms well there (but she does need water).

Thank you, I think she would be worth a try,. I appreciate everyone's opinions.

Got rid of it because the flowers would never fully open and they are scentless. I think naming it Red Eden was just a marketing ploy to ride on the coattails of Eden's popularity. Eden is much better.

Sarah-Ann: did you try out the Red Eden??? How did it do for you? I actually love the ball shape of the blooms... reminds me of peonies.

I’m trying to decide where I need to find a space for this one in my garden.

Hi, Ann,

I planted Red Eden in August so I shall see how it does this spring...I like the cupped shaped red Eden! If you bend it back and forth so it can be horizontal it will begin blooming! If it grows straight up it will bloom finally at the tall end.

Enjoy! I’m excited to see it grown and bloom.

This is one I’d be interested in as long as it would actually climb.

Hi, JC,

Texas seems a great place to grow roses. I think Red Eden could do well for you... sunny spot, good soil and fertilizer. Red Eden is a climber. If you wind it back and forth on a trellis when it is horizontal it will bloom. ( If it shoots straight up it only blooms at the end of the shoot.) My red Eden is 18 inches high this year so it will just get started climbing this year.

I have Eden also and It started out at 6 inches abd grew to 3 ft last August. This spring expect it to climb 6 -8 ft. It is all green-no winter damage so I expect it to do well this year.

Best Wishes!

Ann, I never tried Red Eden, but I still might at some point. It’s a beauty.

So much beauty so little fragrance. I prefer CLIMBING CRIMSON GLORY. Now that rose is fragrant. It is available own root at the Antique Rose Emporium. Just a suggestion.

Climbing Crimson Glory at HelpMeFind Roses

Patrick, I got one from Roses Unlimited.

I think @Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley has one too.

I've had Red Eden for two years now. It grows vigorously and isn't without blooms for more than a few weeks at a time. Mine wasn't fragrant at all until this year. It has a moderately strong old-rose scent as of this writing. A month ago? No scent at all. Perhaps the elements were just right here in mid-July to produce the fragrance. My blooms balled a little bit in our very wet spring, but otherwise they usually open fully and are densely packed with petals similar to a DA rose. I've tried pillaring mine, but the canes are VERY thick and not flexible, so I may move it to a place where it can be a climber or a large shrub instead of trying to wrap it around the obelisk pillar.

Shovel pruned long ago. Flowers never opened. Stiff upright habit.

That's a bummer @hugogurll Where are you located? I can echo the stiff, upright habit--which baffles me since it says everywhere that it can be pillared.

It's form IMO is the most exquisite red rose I have seen.

RED EDEN CLIMBING ROSE / Spring flower 2022

Very beautiful PDXRobertZ8 , thank you for posting such a lovely display.

Maybe next year Red Eden will be the last rose I buy to end my quest for the perfect rose. I never found one but this looks close.

I've been on the wait list at High Country for several months , just checked and it is still out of stock. Hopefully enough will be back in stock by next Spring.

I planted one this spring. I think I got one bloom so far. It's a single upright cane that's maybe grown 18".

kidhorn2 you got one more bloom than I got from my pink Eden- maybe a foot of growth but no blooms yet.

I decided this year to go for the ultimate beauties no matter how painful the wait.

berrypiez6b: Red Eden is still available from Stargazer Perennials on amazon. They ship good plants in band.

Thanks Tututara , I should take a look and see if Stargazer delays shipping.

I usually order roses from High Country each Spring for the last three years. The temperature here today is going to be mid 90's and over 100 in a few days. I have to pass up getting anything sent until at least Fall so it doesn't roast in the mail.

Eden Brothers sent me a notice seeds for White Cloud poppies are back in stock . I'll have to wait on those for now too.

Sheesh, have Stargazer's prices gone up ! I guess everything has.

I will add one more comment, as I have grown Red Eden for many years, and although it does not rebloom much, I still hold on to it for the beauty of the bloom and for how long it lasts on the bush (a long time!) As others have noted, it has no scent, and it is very prone to balling, so some years very few open for me....which is irritating, but all is forgiven when I get some to open and I see that gorgeous color and the shape of the petals. So it gets mixed reviews from me in zone 5.

This morning Northland Rosarium sent me an email they have roses back in stock. To my surprise they have Red Eden.

White gardens are so beautiful, I bought almost all white and pastel roses this year. It looks blah , there needs to be some deep rich color. Unless I find something less thorny , Red Eden is probably the one to go with.

My Red Eden always seems to have some blooms on it here. They also last a long time on the bush! Mine is also very fragrant still. But as others have mentioned, some folks don’t seem to get fragrance with RE

We’re in central Italy, just north of Rome in a little Medieval hilltop town called Stimigliano. We live in a small historic palazzo with a small, terraced and steeply sloping rear ‘garden’. The entire rear garden is paved so every plant we have is in a pot. The entire area is surrounded by a tall stone wall and above that is a wire fence. we were initially planning to replace the wire fence with something more attractive, bu but eventually opted to instead put a row of 42cm square plastic pots around it and to fill those, alternatively, with a star jasmine, a Red Eden rose, ano another Red Eden rose, a star jasmine, and so on, all the way around the fence line. in each corner pot we plant, instead instead, a Papa Meilland climbing rose, and at the base of each jasmine, Red Eden, and Papa Meilland we planted a couple of erigerons to both cover the sides of the plastic pots and serve as a groundcover and weed inhibitor. The star jasmines have now been in their pots for almost two years and have largely covered the entire fence. The Papa Meillands have also been in for upto two years and although they don't produce a huge amount of flowers, those they do produce look and smell like heaven. The Red Edens were only planted in October of 2023, but virtually every tiny bush is already covered in an average of seven flowers. The occasional one has balled, but the vast majority have fully opened, and the entire fenceline looks unspeakably beautiful. these were three of our first four flowers, and not even close to our best so far. However, these first flowers, which opened at least three weeks ago, still look this good now, more than three weeks later. And the new blooms just keep on coming. Not a single flower on those more than two dozen bushes has begun to die back yet. I cannot even begin to sing the praises of this glorious rose enough. Oh, and they all, btw, have a subtle but lovely scent…

Am update on our Red Edens here in central Italy… we now have 22 of them growing around our fence line, 4 growing along our 2nd, 3rd, and 4th storey balconies, 2 growing on our ground floor wall, and another 2 growing over an arch. They’re interspersed throughout the garden with lots of other purplish red and dark red/black roses, but, while all of our other roses are wonderful, our Red Edens are still the overall stars of the show. Damn, I adore this rose! All of our roses and other plants grow in pots btw. Oh, and one more thing, for interest’s sake. I bought a couple of standard Gospel (Tantau) roses a few months ago, and they were such an exquisite pairing for our Red Edens that we’ve since bought several more Gospels and planted them throughout various parts of the garden. Like Red Eden, they’re super healthy and never stop blooming for us, and they have the most heavenly scent…

I would so love to see some photos of your Red Eden beauties, as well as Gospel Rose. Are you able to post some? I’ve not been able to find Gospel Rose here in the USA, though Red Eden is available. Phots, pretty please!!

Sorry for not making it clear: I was talking to you, Elegantly Wasted Design. I would love if you could post some pictures!

No problem at all; these are some pics of one of our Gospels…

And these are of some of the Red Edens growing around our perimeter fence line. It’s hard to get a decent closeup pic of the Red Edens on the fence line, unfortunately, because in a lot of areas the fence they’re growing on is atop a high wall… hence the stick I used to get that last pic

Thank you so much! Those are beautiful roses and I can see why you love them so much.

They really are, and the colour of them is far more beautiful than what I can show in the pics, and gets more and more beautiful as it fades (as does Gospel, which is a very similar shade but just slightly more purplish).

I love both the original Eden and PIP Eden, and I have several of both, but I find it sad that, because it’s not actually related to the original Eden, Red Eden is so often referred to as somehow lesser than it, when in fact it’s actually got far more petals and a larger bloom size, is, from my experience, a better grower, and is, in my opinion, the most beautifully shaped rose of the three…