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11 years ago

A few monthes ago I got a salvia under "forreri" name.

Obviously it is not. It is long flowering low and divergent shrubby actually under 30cm high and wide. With larger festooned lighter green leaved and small blue flowers in dense spikes up to 15cm long with persistent purplish green sepals. Sorry no photos.

Comments (17)

  • 11 years ago

    As my description is not so accurate I looked at pictures and found one of

    Salvia brachyloba at Robin Middleton site that has rather similar spike plus flower color and proportions. A bit narrower and slenderer.

    However plant is low heavy branching and leaves are quite different soft clear pink and larger wider based down stems.


  • 11 years ago

    About leaves they are similar to Salvia procurrens. Same green, similar edges and shape. very different growth habit. In my garden and as pictured at robinsalvia.

    I hope these elements will allow some id progress




  • 11 years ago

    We really need a photo showing foliage and flowers.

  • 11 years ago

    I second Robin's comment.

  • 11 years ago


    Thanks for your attention.

    I have pictures in a friend PC that refuse to be sent...

    After viewing a lot of salvia pictures a close approximation of my salvia would be a much smaller in parts and overall verticillata with softer crenate leaf edges.

  • 11 years ago

    Here are the pictures.

    file://localhost/Users/pierrerutten/Desktop/-1783549844756F5B9B.png


  • 11 years ago

    and

    file://localhost/Users/pierrerutten/Desktop/5034163173BE48461.png


  • 11 years ago

    plus

    file://localhost/Users/pierrerutten/Desktop/17566766796DA6B3AF.png

    Hope it works

  • 11 years ago

    Well I am not used to sending pictures to a forum.

    I have them on my Mac desktop and in iPhoto...



  • 11 years ago

    When you are composing your reply, look below the text box where you are typing for a camera icon with the word photo. Clicking on that should take you to a dialog box that will allow you to find the photo that apparently is saved to your computer's desktop. Select the photo and click open (on a Windows PC). It should be similar on a Mac.



  • 11 years ago

    I suspect that this is Salvia verticillata:

    http://www.robinssalvias.com/htms/verticillata.htm

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Rich

    Calice and flower color and size fit rathher well.

    Though leaf shape and surface as well as leaf edges are different: much smoother.

    Actually wondering if it is something else: not a salvia.

  • 11 years ago

    A close up of the flowers will tell if it is a Salvia.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you Rich


    Lastly I got a reply from the vendor back from holidays.

    He suggested merjamie that has a very different flower... and napifolia whose flower fit better. What do you think?


  • 10 years ago

    I agree with it being close to napifolia, which is very similar to verticilata, and has a more southern distribution (Turkish-Iranian element), whereas verticillata is a European-Siberian element. Some authors have reduced napifolia to a subspecies of verticillata.

    I can't go further than that with web images.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you Rich.

    The seller (it is Dutch national collection holder) should know his plants.

    Just now accidentally I did find a better fit with Salvia verticillata Hanneys Blue whose leaf and flower are identical to my plant.

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