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Pickle Worms

I posted this in the squash and pumpkins forum and only one suggestion, any one have any suggestions for organic control of pickle worms.

I am trailing lots of winter squash this year, mostly Moschatas. In the south SVB's are terrible, and on top of that, pickle worms show up in July, last year they ruined 1/2 of my butternut crop and the SVB's took out my yellow squash. I learned last year that butternut could be harvested green and cured in the garage to normal butternut tan, and they tasted the same to me. So when my butternuts approached full size even though they were green, I picked them and put them in the garage to cure. They are turning tan nicely and I fully expect them to taste the same as one cured on the vine.

A couple got hit by pickle worms so I picked them, cut out the worms and my wife made squash casserole and fried squash with the immature butternuts and they tasted better than any yellow squash or zuchinni I ever had. Also had pickle worms in the cukes, but I am getting so many Marketmore 76 it did not matter. Maybe they are a trap crop?
Bottom line is I may only plant Moschatas next year, good as any summer squash I have ever had and perfect as a long keeper winter squash.

Anybody know an organic method of preventing pickle worms?

Cant figure out how to post a pic?

Comments (12)

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Depends on where you are.Pickle worms are very difficult to control. There is little on the market whether or not you are organic that is available to home gardeners. On the positive side it is a tropical insect. It can only overwinter in South Florida. It migrates north in the summer. The moths are strong flyers. They usually arrive in Northern climates on a definite schedule. Here in middle Georgia they arive around the Fourth of July. Summer squash and cucumber harvest is ending at that time and winter squash rinds are tough enough to repel them. Ditto for cantaloupes. https://extension.tennessee.edu/publications/Documents/W206.pdf

  • 11 years ago

    farmerdill, do you live in middle Georgia? I live in the extreme SE GA

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I'm in upstate SC and they got here this year about July 15, Last year they got got my tan, hard butternuts, about 1/2 the crop. I was trying for vine ripening with a dry stem, so they were pretty far along. I had far more of them in my cukes this year than squash so maybe that helped. By the way, Farmerdill, your comments last year encouraged me to try them as summer squash. In my opinion moschatas are much better than any yellow squash or zuchinni. Also, my butternuts picked green, cure to a nice tan in my garage. Had one last night and it was delicious. So in my opinion it's not necessary to leave them on the vine until the stem is dry and the rind can't be penetrated by a fingernail, unless maybe you are saving seeds.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I spray the fruit with spinosad on the outside until they get hard and if a worm still gets in dunk the squash in water and it will back out. Then just cut around the hole when we harvest it. For my cushaw, I sprayed a little BT in the hole and we will see what it is like but there are no soft spots and it is still growing. With the spinosad, I do not care what they say - don't get it on any flowers, even at night because it will kill bees the next day.

  • 11 years ago

    I have lost quite a few moschatas this year, and many cucumbers, but I have a new solution for the moschatas, ladies knee high hose! If I can find the squash before the pickle worms, I slip it over them. Waiting to see if it prevents them from getting in. .89$ per pair!

  • 11 years ago

    Tell you what they have been BRUTAL.......next year we are going to cover at night ..... They even got into my cushaws and I am not sure a 20# cushaw could sport the panty hose. Took out two watermelons as well :( :(.


  • 11 years ago

    I agree with jocoyn, far worse this year than previous years. Found a butternut yesterday that had migrated over in the sweet potatoes and was heavily covered by leaves and well hidden and it had several.

  • 11 years ago

    I will be using surround next year for my tomatoes and will try this on the squash as well. The stink bugs and Leaf footed bugs are pretty bad here, although this is my first summer and I was dealing with tons of weeds as well.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Tracy, I use Surround on tomato plants (leaves and fruit), all of my cucurbits....the whole plant, including lower stems, green bean foliage if beetles are bad, and more.

    I concentrate where I'm spraying, flowers should be avoided.

    Oh! I forgot to add that the clay coating is a great squirrel and bird deterrent, too!

  • 11 years ago

    I need to look into surround but the pickleworms go for the flowers big time as well as for the growing tips. I do spray my flowers with spinosad but ONLY the outside of those a few days before blooming not the day before..it does seem to help but .............

  • 11 years ago

    So I have a new solution for my butternut types, ladies knee high hose. Lot of work,but it's working so far. Slide the hose over the squash, it's very stretchy and allows the fruit to grow normally. $.89 per pair at the grocery here in upstate SC.