Hi all,

Looking for identification input on these two plants. First one is bumped up from an earlier thread:

This was marked by Gee's as Abies religiosa, but some of you confirmed my already doubtful suspicions. But any ideas on what species it actually is?

Then, this one:

Bought it last year as an Abies concolor 'Candicans', but It looks little like the other one I have, and I don't think it's grafted. Any idea what it is? Perhaps just straight Abies concolor?

Thanks.

Josh