*Should be Skincare Market.

Just noticed they sell SkinCeuticals on Amazon also but she has ordered Kerastse from there and felt that it wasn't the same product ordered directly from them - watered down.

Well dang, just read they test on animals. Can anyone recommend a good anti-aging skin care product that does not test on animals?

I use some of the Philosophy line. They do not test on animals (under their FAQs, though there are sites out there that list them as one who does and others who say they don't). My only gripe has been that it's expensive to try new products and figure out which is best -- and then they introduce something new that sounds like it tops whatever you are using. I suppose that's true of everything, and sales, promotions, trial sizes, combination bags or kits and samples can help.

I still use Hope in a Jar because it is one of the lightest moisturizers I can find. I used to use their tinted sunblock for the face as a "foundation," but they have discontinued it, along with the mascara and a few other products. I am sticking to the moisturizer but won't try any new products from them as they D/C the, on a much too frequent schedule.

I know Orlane does not test on animals. I have used their products since the early 1970s.

Here is a list from PETA:no animal testing

Cellex-c doesn't test on animals. For a while I was making my own vit. c serum, but got tired of trying to get the pH correct and have gone back to Cellex-c. I swear, I can see a difference in my skin within a few days. Lately I have been applying wheat germ oil after the cellex-c. The high levels of vitamin e in wheat germ oil are said to improve the benefits of the vitamin c.

I may have confused Hope in a Jar and Miracle Worker, but my recollection was they were both a bit heavy for me-- the Miracle Worker more so. I got a sample of the Renewed Hope in a Jar and that is my current favorite.

I agree with the changing products. It can be very confusing and frustrating. I've told them so in a couple of surveys and I have encouraged (begged) them to offer more samples of new products because of that. They say go into a store and ask, but I've had success getting a sample packet once and got a store sample in a pot from Sephora.

I never used the Hope in a Jar SPF -- I think that is the one they offered tinted? I tried one of them in the store and it was too heavy too. Living near the Gulf Coast, it's really hard to find something that doesn't get slimy when it is hot and humid. I have used the Hope in a Jar A to Z (SPF 20) as a light foundation, but only after a sample came with something I ordered and I found I could wear it. I would say it is worth a try

DD treated me to a facial with her aesthetist who uses Epicuren. I'd never heard of it before but this was the first facial I ever had -- and I've had tons of them -- with absolutely no reaction, no itching, no redness or irritation. And the effects have lasted several weeks. Just ordered the pumpkin peel, soothing balm and a cleanser.

Lascatx and kswl, I found Beautypedia after posting here the other day. It's owned by Paula Begoun, The Cosmetics Cop (Don't Go to the Cosmetics Counter Without Me
The Original Beauty Bible). Philosophy and Hope in a Jar are not rated very high there on average, but if they are working for you then that's great.

Roc, DD1 just looked over my shoulder and said she used to use a few Epicuren products, but prefers SkinCeuticals. She just started using a sample of SkinCeuticals Resveratrol B E - expensive, but loves it. I borrowed, used once and it was nice.

I have been using (don't laugh) varies systems of Principal Secret since 1997. Every time she creates a new system I try and end up moving on to it. Currently using the Reclaim Botanical and discovered some eye serum and something for fine lines starting over my upper lip (need to stop kissing those grandbabies so much!). I'm going to use these and see if there is an improvement. If not, I will try something else. Anyway, the PS must be working because everyone always says what great skin I have, even at the dermatologist office. I've started doing a series of three 5% glycolic peels once a year (each 2-3 weeks apart) and I can really see the difference in my skin afterwards. DD1 got samples of m-61 Power Glow Peels from BlueMercury and said they have helped her skin.

There is just so much out there, like said above, it gets confusing. And it's not inexpensive to try new things. What works for some, doesn't work for all and it can get frustrating. fyi, DD1 found the list of authorized SkinCeauticals websites, and the one I asked about in my original post is a no.

Gail, I've never heard of Cellex so looked it up. It's not on the list as non-animal testing and I don't see a statement on their website. I haven't tried wheat germ oil, but do go over my face with witch hazel after washing each night.

I have sensitive skin and have been happy with CeraVe products.

Cynical me, aren't all products that say "doesn't test on animals" buying products that are, so they can say they don't? They do not have to list the provenance of their suppliers.

~animal lover.

Beautypedia touches on that, Bumble, and says "IMPORTANT NOTE 1: If the company's site claims they do not test on animals but the brand has a China website or is sold by a cosmetics site selling to citizens of mainland China,
we consider said brand one that tests on animals. The Chinese
government requires animal testing on all imported cosmetics. So, a
brand that retails there (whether online or in an actual store) must agree to this testing even though they may not test on animals themselves or endorse this practice in any other country."

Allison - It says here that they don't.

http://www.cellexcamerica.com/content/customer-service