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Adenium care for winter?

11 years ago

Well I can see myself spending too much time on here as there is plenty of adenium info to learn from and pics to drool over lol as a UK Forum I go on there are not many adenium growers on it as it's more a cacti forum

Anyway please can you tell me when it's time to stop watering for winter dormancy or is this only necessary for old plants?

Cheers

Phil


Comments (28)

  • 11 years ago

    Greetings Phil. The plant will go dormant once temperatures are cooler. Some species will drop their leaves while others will stop taking up water. You will have to watch for it to give you clues.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks tracy, is it the same for young plants/seedlings? I bought a few 2/3 yr old plants and also have some I grew from seed myself which are around 3-5 months old, so would these just be treated as if it was summer during winter months ie. Keep watering them if they are under artificial light etc

  • 11 years ago

    Depends on their size. The smaller ones may not be able to sustain themselves over a dormant period. Definitely not the 3-5 month olds. Maybe post pictures of the older seedlings with a ruler so we can see how big they are?

  • 11 years ago

    Ok will get some pics tomorrow and post them on here, but be warned they ain't as fat and nice looking at many I see on here but in time and more learning I hope to be growing really strong, fat, healthy looking adenium plants :)

  • 11 years ago

    Hi Phil, and welcome! Where are you actually located, the UK?

    Gill UK

  • 11 years ago

    Hi Gill, I am in Halifax, West Yorkshire

  • 11 years ago
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    Here are some of mine as requested, largest pots being about 7cm

  • 11 years ago

    Phil, your plants look great. I think I also spot an epi in the corner. What medium do you use?. I've used different mixes but tend to go back to cactus/perlite 50/50

    im in Wilts and as I'm sure you know it's been a hellish summer but we soldier on

    kind regards Averil

  • 11 years ago

    Hi averil, well spotted there is indeed an epiphyllum in the corner, I just this year bought 4/5 of them to try as they have gorgeous flowers on them. I also have various cacti/succulents but may even sell some or trade to make way for more adenium lol i have fallen for them :)

    I was using John innes number 2 with added pearlite/grit but someone mentioned that the sand in John innes is not good for adenium, so I am now slowly trying coir and pearlite and coir and grit approx 50-50 ratio so I guess I will see how that goes?

    The larger plants in the pic are 2/3 yr old plants I bought from a cacti seller, the smaller seedlings you see are my first ever attempt at Adeniums as they are new to me this year and already love them even though they don't resemble a real adenium lol

  • 11 years ago

    Your plants look good Phil. I bought seeds from ebay and they are three years old now. I had ordered seeds of all "flavours" ,however the ones that have flowered have all been single pink. I'm not unhappy about that but in the New Year I shall order seeds from sites I have seen mentioned on this forum, Mr Ko or another one that I can't bring to mind because it would be really exciting to have something different. This is a great site with great advice and I hate to say it but pics of the most beautiful plants that members have grown lol. One thing I will warn you of though ........ Sometimes there are graphic scenes of surgery complete with gloves and scalpels lolllllllll. Have a great day

    kind regards

    averil


  • 11 years ago

    Thanks for the warning lol I did notice plants with missing digits bless lol but agree this is a great forum and really glad I accidentally found it lol.

    I have odd spares of the following seedlings if you would like any freebies, seed I bought from the AdeniumStore in the UK so at least you can see what flowers they are should they come true.

    I have dazzling light and black king both sown 24th April this year and Thai Socotranum King crown and Petch Banna both sown early June this year.

    No obligation but offer is there for anyone who might like an odd one, as there aren't many I only bought 5 seeds of each lol

  • 11 years ago

    Oh just noticed you have seeds, I wouldn't mind a couple if they are going

    averil

  • 11 years ago

    Wow averil that would be awesome, I will email you for sure and happy to pay for it or if your into cacti and succulents I can send you something in return, I have echinopsis Hybrids, an odd echeveria, agave pygmae, lophophora and poss some sempervivum pups?

    Did you grow it yourself from seed, it looks a nice chunky chappy, and what are rats tail cuttings lol

  • 11 years ago

    I don't want paid Phil, and to be honest I have too many plants now, just happy it will go to a good home. Yes this one was planted from seed in Jul 2012 and it is in rude health. Rats tail cactus is a long trailing horror as my daughter says but they have gorgeous flowers. Google the image and I shall clip some for you if you want. I shall send the plant bare rooted and get it in the mail Thursday at the latest. I'm sure he will love Halifax

    Phil UK zone 8b thanked Averil
  • 11 years ago

    Well thanks very much indeed. What feed do you tend to use. I have Chempak number 8 which I got for my cacti and succulents but recently bought a feed called superthrive which I read was a good one. I also got something called clonex thinking it was a foliar feed but think it's more a rooting aid?

    Sent you an email too averil

    Cheers Cheers

    Phil

  • 11 years ago

    Got yr address Phil. Will post Thursday. I'm a bit hit and miss with feed to be honest.mi normally use miracle gro at half dose but I've used tomorite as well. I do know a lot of folks swear by super thrive and chempak. It all gets a bit too scientific for me lol


  • 11 years ago

    I know what you mean, I am easily confuzzeled too lol

    Don't forget to let me know if there's any cacti or succulents and which adenium seedlings you would like, and send your address too

    I recently bought some mixed arabicum seeds too via ebay just to try, old n bald was the seller I think lol, so am sure I will be passing some of them on too in a fee months or so depending how they fair

  • 11 years ago

    Hello again Phil, looks like you have the beginnings of a great collection going on there, they can be very addictive so watch out, you have been warned! Forgot to mention my location, I'm in the Staffordshire Moorlands which is the North of the county, near Alton Towers. Can I ask where you managed to get your Superthrive from please?

    Gill UK

  • 11 years ago

    Hi Gill, I got my superthrive from the plethora of eBay sellers. I nearly bought some from the AdeniumStore but found it on ebay for pretty much half the price. A little goes a long way too as the dosage can be as little as one drop per 'x' amount of litres of water (can't remember exactly how much with looking at the bottle)

  • 11 years ago

    Phil, thanks for posting a photo of your Adeniums. You have a really good start on your collection. They all look happy and healthy. I'm not sure that they are big enough to self-sustain a dormant period. My seedlings don't shut down since I continue to feed and water them and provide a source of light. I think since yours are indoors there is a good chance that they won't enter dormancy, unless you keep it awfully chilly inside. I hope some of the more experienced growers can chime in to better answer your question.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    Hi tracy thanks for the info. To be honest it took me a while to get the watering right and even now in the UK summer if you can call it that lol I have to watch as the temps in my mini greenhouse don't always reach the desired temps that I would like so take that bit longer to get the pots of the dryer side without completely drying them out. I bought a digital probe thing that you stick in the soil which supposedly tells you how dry the pot is but even though the compost looks and feels damp the probe still reads like it's dry, so not sure if they are accurate or not lol so have stopped using it for now, another 12 quid well spent....not.

  • 11 years ago

    Excited to read that you have made some new friends Phil and Averil has graciously offered up a lovely Adenium to you! It just reaffirms my feelings about the generosity of the members here. Simply amazing.

  • 11 years ago

    Indeed tracy couldn't agree more :)

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Phil, had looked for some last season but could only find it available from the US so am grateful for the link, I'll get some on order, cheers!

    Gill UK

  • 11 years ago

    Forgot to mention, I also bought one of those moisture meter gizmos and it was an utter waste of money as mine even said it was dry whilst standing in a mug of water! I complained and got a full refund, the gadget went in the rubbish bin where it belonged.

    Gill UK

  • 11 years ago

    Gill I did exactly that, stud it in a cup of water and yep, dry as a friggin bone, teach me to leave feedback too early - arrggh!