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The Solubor (Borax) Experiment

11 years ago
last modified: 11 years ago

I have a pair of trees that I pruned about 5 weeks ago in hopes of stimulating some foliar growth. This sculpture-like plant captivated me upon first sight. I am somewhat regretting this selection now because of the lack of new growth. There is none at all. I did a little researching and discovered that this could be due to a Boron deficiency. I located a product called Solubar that is a soluble foliar boron spray.

The instructions were to mix a pound per hundred gallons. My production isn't quite there just yet, so I did the math and determined that it would take about .16 of an ounce for a single gallon. I leveled off a teaspoon and then used about a quarter of that to mix into a half gallon of water and drenched the plant completely. Time will tell if this helps. I mixed up a foliar spray with about 1/2 the amount as above into a 32 oz bottle of water and sprayed some of my plants. I will have to dilute a bit more if I use it again because some leaves were unhappy about it.

Tracy

Comments (32)

  • 11 years ago

    They are painfully slow to grow.After re-potting mine took more than a month to put out new leaves.These sprays not available here so left to nature...and monsoons to do the trick. After a few monsoon showers they started showing signs of life.Since this happened I have stored about 100 liters of rainwater specially for them in two large containers!All the best and hope boron works for the plants!

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Sinha
  • 11 years ago

    Hope this does the trick for you. Looks like that bag will last about 3 years or longer

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Nicholas C.
  • 11 years ago

    Pagan, I forget where you live because my memory seems to be overstressed with plant info, but if you have a Walmart near you then I'd check there. Mine has osmocote on clearance for cheap. May be worth picking up just to have. Not sure if they are no longer carrying or just setting up for winter.

    I can't stand Walmart. So you know its a good deal if I broke down and went in.

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Nicholas C.
  • 11 years ago

    I'm in north NJ, Nick. Fortunately lots of other stores carry Osmocote here also. It's just that I have this container to use up lol and it does work quite well.


    Pagan


    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked User
  • 11 years ago
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    Nick this bag will probably last for 20 years.

    Pagan I am using the same as you, Dyna Pro Foliage Pro. Weekly fertilizations did not help with this plant, so I decided to take drastic measures. Also I have a number of plants that are close to 1 year old that have leaves that are growing twisted as if the center vein wasn't long enough for the leaf. I applied a mist of this to them as well. I will post before and after pics if I find that it is helping.

    The instructions for using on crops seem to indicate that you only want to apply this twice in a single season.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago
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    Tracy, would you mind telling what those plants are then? I have designated a lot of my plants to be in the do-not-disturb category while their roots are fattening up. You have the perfect idea for protecting my adult plants from getting dug up. If I put companion plants that will survive 5:1:1 and not take all the nutrients, maybe I won't be as itchy to dig the adenium out to check on the roots out of curiosity.


    Pagan


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  • 11 years ago

    Pagan, are you referring to the Adeniums mentioned with the twisted leaves or are you talking about the grass that is growing in my repotted plant?

  • 11 years ago
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    Oh I think this was answered in the other thread. Thanks Tracy!

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked User
  • 11 years ago

    Yes, Mondo Grass was the answer. Cool.

  • 11 years ago

    I have great news to report on my Solubor experiment. It appears that the drench with Solubor (9 days ago) to the twin plants that have no foliage at all has triggered a response from the plant. I am seeing new growth! This plant has been dormant since I got it home, so I am excited to see some progress.



    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    That is wonderful news Tracy. Have you been trying anything other than the solubor?

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Nicholas C.
  • 11 years ago

    grats. yours looks better than one of my containers which got 8 inches of rain in last two weeks. drain plug was plugged ...

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked bragu_DSM 5
  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Nicholas. Since I got the plant home in early July I have been fertilizing it with Dyna Pro Foliage Pro and also supplementing with Superthrive. I was beginning to think that moving it from Florida to here was too hard of an adjustment. Both this plant and another one the same size I brought from Lucky Sumo are both behaving as though they are dormant, not pushing out any new leaves or growth.

    Lucky Sumo's Adeniums are raised hard. They look different from my other Adeniums because they are aged from the elements. The bark is much thicker and has an old-age look to it. The great thing about this is that they are more tolerant of the environment and are hardier when it comes to pest resistance, rain, etc.

    Thank you Dave. Sorry to hear about your almost drowned Adenium. Did you pull it out of the media to dry it out?

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    Tracy, please keep the pictures coming. I want to see it too.

    Marie

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Marie Tran
  • 11 years ago
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    I will keep posting the progress, Marie. I am thinking about doing another drench in the Solubor. Perhaps I am pushing this plant to fast? The instructions mentioned only putting it on crops twice in a season. But I think that is the case for healthy crops that do not have a deficiency.


  • 11 years ago
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    I went for it! I treated actually 3 different plants that have been outdoors in a state of dormancy. I am planning to put them under LED lights indoors to see if this will help trigger them to begin growing again.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    This week it seemed to warm up and stay in the 90's F and some trees began to show life again. Many of my obesums have been somewhat dormant even though they have been outside due to mild temperatures. I noticed that there is some new growth on the plant in this thread so I will post some photos. Note it is small progress but it is great in my eyes because I didn't think this plant was going to ever produce foliage again.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    Tracy, do you contribute that growth due to the Borox treatment of the warmer weather? I'm just curious as I have a variegated plant that I got last year. It stayed dormant all winter long and STILL does not have leaves. It started budding out and stayed in the bud formation all summer. I've been really curious about your experiment.

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked ladylotus
  • 11 years ago

    Thanks for your reply Ladylotus. While I'm sure the warm weather helped I'm convinced that the two drenches in Solubor prompted the growth. When I got the plant home the first week of July we had some very hot temps, 90's and above. I made the foul assumption that a caterpillar had eaten most of its leaves. The plant was already deficient when I bought it. I need to be less emotionally vested when buying trees and more of a skeptic about the plant health! Tropica Nursery has a page on their site that describes problems and deficiencies with Adeniums. The fourth image down is an image of a Boron deficient tree with the same symptoms as mine. I drenched my plant just as this article describes. Note that if it is used as a foliar spray the leaves need to be washed before put back into full sun or it turns them angry colors.

    If you would like to try some I would happily send you some. This 2 pound bag will last two lifetimes due to the infrequency of the use. I used 1/4 teaspoon in a 1/2 gallon of water for the drench.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago
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    I had the same idea about my bag of ceylon cinnamon, Tracy. I can't imagine this stuff lasting forever, especially since I don't even use it anymore. It isn't easy to find and I find it abhorrent so it only ever got used on germinating seeds. So raise a tentacle, if anyone wants some. Hell, take the whole thing so I wont have to put the stuff in little baggies like a...er..cinnamon dealer.

    Pagan

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  • 11 years ago

    The thought just occurred to me of sending a baggie of white powder via the US Postal service may not be in my best interest....I suppose if labeled properly it would be fine.

  • 11 years ago

    Curious Pagan what is the difference between ceylon cinnamon and the standard cinnamon in the spice aisle at the grocery store?

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    The husband claims it has a sweeter aftertaste than cassia cinnamon which is the common type sold in supermarkets. He uses it as final sprinkle for his bizarre cornbread.

    As for the anti-microbial properties, ceylon cinnamon supposedly has more of whatever it is. But I don't use it anymore because I solved that instead by using bottom-heat to speed up germination and growth so that algae and fungi does not have the opportunity to kill my seedlings at their most vulnerable stage.

    Pagan

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  • 11 years ago

    Tracy and Pagan you both are very kind for the offers. I did look at the link you provided Tracy and I do think that is my problem with my variegated Adenium. However, I will check the local garden center as I am sure they have Boron. I will give that a try and see if it perks up my plant. I will share a photo in another thread an my progress. Thank you both for the kind offers. I agree it might not be a good idea to send a white powder in the mail.

    Heck I worry about all the plants I'm getting from all these countries and if I've been flagged as a potential terrorist. Also, I have an unusual name so I suspect that might also be suspicious. Darn Germans come up with these dratted unique names. lolol.

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked ladylotus
  • 11 years ago
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    penzys spices sells at least four types of cinnamon. several are pricey. but i use it like a fungicide… the family comes to 'shop' dad's spice collection. i use bottles, not baggies …

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked bragu_DSM 5
  • 11 years ago
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    Ladylotus I do recall seeing your actual name at some point but I have a terrible memory when it comes to names. Would you be kind enough to remind me? I saw Jericson refer to you as TJ, is this a preferred nickname?

    I also wonder the same about my local post office. What they must think as I am receiving packages from all over the world.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    One should not use the words "think" and "post office" in the same sentence. I love it when I go to 'sign' the machine to receive a post, they always explain how to use it … "sign your name and press enter - sign your address and press enter"… even tho they see me weekly ...

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked bragu_DSM 5
  • 11 years ago

    My actual name is Tangula. In facebook I go by TJ it is not a nickname, I was hesitant to sign up with my real name so someone signed me up as TJ (my street address name) saying there...now no one will know you. hahaha.

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked ladylotus
  • 10 years ago

    Update on the boron experiment. I am not sure it moving these to the red room invalidates my experiment or not. The growth has been evident but so slow. The larger plant is showing progress, nothing out of the smaller of the two though. I am hoping to get my tent up today so I can get both LEDs installed which will allow me to put this duo beneath the LED rather than just along the sides. A note to anyone thinking about using the boron foliar spray. I killed the mondo grass that was growing around the base of the caudex by covering it in boron spray. Will know to avoid that area the next time. I am growing some more mondo grass so I can dress my adeniums in it.

    Tracy

  • 10 years ago

    Tracy, Very glad you posted your update on Boron. I am glad that I just ran out of time and did not invest in any. It seems to me that it did not provide the growth you expected.

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked ladylotus
  • 10 years ago
    A photo update on the twin duo from over the summer. It's hard to say if the Boron helped or if it was just intense lighting that was needed. The larger of the duo is leafing out and actually growing branches! The smaller of the two, still nothing. I think it can live forever like this. Time will tell.