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I Dare You To ID This.!!

I already know some of the answer:

=== you cannot ID a tomato from a picture.

=== You cannot ID a tomato even if you hold it in your hand.

=== There are 1000 s of tomatoes that look like that ....

'''''''''''''''''''' on and on -----

But What I am presenting to you here is a tomato with some uncommon features like: It is pleated ... its blossom end protrudes a bit.... When ripe, it will have some faint stripes on it.

And yeah, it is red when ripe ..Surprise !!

Fruit size is about 12 oz.+/-

Dare to name 2 tomatoes that look like that, never mind 1000s of tomatoes... hehe

I don't think it is one of the ox heart things.


If you KNOW a variety looks like that, that is what I am shooting for. Not a genetic id.

HYSTORY:
I bought a heirloom tomato from store 3 years ago, saved seeds and planted. This is the 3rd season.

Sey




Comments (15)

  • 11 years ago
  • 11 years ago

    I think it's not flat enough to be a costoluto genovese. Sey, did it look like that the previous two years or has it changed?

  • 11 years ago

    Caryl is right, Daniel. This variety has a slightly pointy blossom end AND it is not as much pleated to be costoluto of any kind ( = pleated).

    I have searched Google images and have not found anything like this so far. The slightly pointy BE is a distinctive feature of it.It is kinda like an onion.

    I will post picture of ripe fruits when available.

    Anybody else has an idea ? Thanks for trying.

    Sey

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    "I already know some of the answer:

    === you cannot ID a tomato from a picture.

    === You cannot ID a tomato even if you hold it in your hand.

    === There are 1000 s of tomatoes that look like that ...."

    Sey Oh, so that was actually a real question, when I read this I thought you were playing 20 questions! Hmmmm. After reading the above a second time, hahaha, what about also mentioning the part that It's just an undeveloped green tomato, and there aren't any ripe cross sections or cavities to look at, etc., etc., ... how many clairvoyants are running around here?

    In any case it's a European retro-heiroom that goes by the non-descript name of "Coeur de Boeuf d'Antan ", or just Antan CDB in English. This tomato is genetically related to the rest of the Costolutos from the general Genovese region.

    Cheers

    PC

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    PC.

    I am not playing any game. I really want to narrow it down , at least.

    The shape of tomato is the same when ripe. This is the 3rd season I AM GROWING IT.and I gave the history. .

    I will search your link. NO ! that is not what I got. Thanks though .

    Sey

    A close up


    I have couple of them showing some hint of color. I will take pictures when fully ripe, inside and out. This one , unlike Beef/ox hearts is more flat, large in diameter, with a small protrusion on the blossom end, more like a red onion.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks PC,. You are right.

    The closest thing to it is the general class of ox heart. But that is a general description not a specific variety, like cherry, grape, pear, strawberry, etc.


    In less that a week I should be able to post picture of ripe ones ( not the ones in this picture) .

    Sey


  • 11 years ago

    Coeur de Boeuf d'Antan (Source: the Belgian company BelOrta)


  • 11 years ago

    Coeur de Boeuf d'Antan (Source: the French company Kampexport)


  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    daniel_nyc(7a)

    Coeur de Boeuf d'Antan (Source: the Belgian company BelOrta)

    Thanks Daniel. PC also posted the link to the same.

    It is the closet to what I have,BUT

    Mine

    Theirs

    Qdf deAnton is elongated, like most Ox Hearts. Mine is shorter and more flat.

    Again, I see the resemblance but they are not the same thing.

    Obviously , mine had been grown in America ( the one that I got seeds from) and not an European import ( sold by Krogers)..


    In conclusion : As I said before ( in my opening post) I was shooting for a variety that mine is close to it. And QDF d'Antan IS IT.

    Sey

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Sey
    wrote: > Thanks Daniel. PC also posted the link to the same.

    Yes, PC
    posted a link from the same… COMPANY, but a different… PICTURE !

    More
    pictures, better… right Sey ?

    Anyway, I’m
    happy you found answer to your question.

    Btw, “d’Antan”
    in French means “old school” “old fashion” “long time ago.”

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks Again, Daniel .

    And for the French lesson , Merci Beaucoup !

    Sey

  • 11 years ago

    PICTORIAL UPDATE:

    Today I picked 3 fruits at some color break.

    Here are some pictures for your viewing pleasure. hehe

    Three of them together


    Focused on one



    LASTLY : The profile

    Notice , the protrusion that gives it heart shape is less than 3/8". In other words, if you shave that part off the tomato will look just like a pleated beefsteak.. Also it is much wider than it is long. If it is really a HEART variety , it is some big FAT heart. hehe.

    I will let them get ripe and the I will show the cross section and inner form.

    Can you guess the final ripe color of them ? NOT red, Not pink , Not orange ..either.

    I can share/trade seeds if you are interested.Thanks for watching !


    Sey



  • 11 years ago

    That's a great looking tomato! I would be interested in some seeds. I have a few interesting types I can offer in trade...

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks rhoder551, ... I will save more seeds to share.

    Wait until you see the ripe color . It is a different color and not very common.

    Sey