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Grafted Trees and Appearance.....

11 years ago

I contacted UK customs regarding shipping plants to me from outside the EU as I was thinking of getting a couple maybe from Rinoa. Good news is that as long as there is a phyto certificate attached then it's fine.

So what I would like to know is do grafted Trees look like 'normal' adeniums given a year or two of growing or will they always look like a grafted tree. I know normal is a vague term here but when you graft a tree it's very obvious it's been grafted. Does the graft eventually grow into the main trunk so you wouldn't know it's been grafted?

By all means pics of grafted Trees are always welcome or info is cool either.

Thanks team

Phil :)

Comments (17)

  • 11 years ago

    The graft might become less noticeable or can be more noticeable over time. I do not believe the averge graft will fade over time.

    Strangely enough, I was just thinking the other night about ways to possibly reduce the visibility of grafts. My only thought was if the graft is particularly ugly, it might be possible to trim the edges and have it reheal. I just don't like the appearance of grafts.

  • 11 years ago

    I'm no Adenium expert, but in other types of plants a graft if done well, will, over time become more and more difficult to detect. They never go away, but can become most difficult to detect.

    Actually, it is probably a good thing that the graft is always detectible, because lots of grafts come from plants that do not have strong root systems, and are grafted onto stock that has more robust roots, and may not have as desirable flowers or fruit. Knowing this makes it less apt that someone will try to root cuttings from the graft, or take cuttings from below the graft and be disappointed at what they get.

    Just my take....

    Bill

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I think I might get a couple to try and see possibly?

    Thanks for the pics Rick - I did notice the arabicum x golden crown for sale at $30, might try one lol

    This is one I bought via ebay a bit back, just got them to try as it was part of a group of 4 mixed adenium plants for like £8 delivered, but as you see this one has quite ugly growth that looks like a poor graft, although I think it's prob just damage to the plant from the seller I bought from? It nearly went to adenium heaven but decided to keep for now and let it develop a bit as I do have space in the tent......

  • 11 years ago

    Phil, I forgot to mention to ask Rinoa. If at all possible to see if she could pick ones with big caudex's. She will if able.

    The cost of the Arabicum x Golden Crown was more than I usually spend, but it is nice to have a few older trees that have the characteristics you would be wanting to grow from seed.

    These trees here do not grow at a rate that they do in Thailand even with artificial lighting and unless you are a 'spring chicken', one would not see the tree develop into a large specimen.

    Rick

  • 11 years ago

    What would you call a spring chicken pal lol I am 40 today ;)

  • 11 years ago

    It doesn't look like a grafted plant, Phil. It looks like what a seedling looks like if you pruned off the top early and instead of branching, it just grew another branch off to one side. Would you mind taking another picture, rotating that plant about 37.87 degrees to the right?

    P

  • 11 years ago

    Just for Pagan - think I only managed a rotation of 36.46 degrees East ;-)

  • 11 years ago

  • 11 years ago

    Last one, it's a of an ugly duckling right now but maybe when branches appear it may look better?

  • 11 years ago

    I agree with Pagan, it was probably pruned early. Or it had a testa wrapped around its caudex at some point and stressed that area.

    Tracy

  • 11 years ago

    I do agree and think it was pruned early as they others that came with it were also nipped out so maybe they pruned the lot there were selling?

  • 11 years ago

    Ahh..see, that's better, if a little less clear had it been rotated 37.87 degrees lol And it looks like that not so much because it was pruned early but more because it was pruned too low, like this:

    Rick's photos show what it looks like when the diameter of stock and scion is closely matched. If they are grossly mismatched, you get shelves like these:
    These graft points looked worse when I first got this plant, believe me (one of my early adeniums). Three years on and I still have shelves. But they will be fixed. Muahaha (thunder and lightning).

    There are no such things as ugly adeniums. These are poster plants for cosmetic nips and tucks!

    Pagan

  • 11 years ago

    Hi pagan - they are quite extreme them shelves aren't they,well for a newbie likee they are lol. Got my eye on a few of rinoa's plants but will see what happens

  • 11 years ago

    Maybe a nice little tutu or decorative skirt to hide the edges! LOL. Pagan you could modify some of those purple ribbon jewelry bags of your sisters to make a nice sheath dress. LOL, sorry a bit of beer with my BBQ today. :) :) :)

  • 11 years ago

    Har har, you two. And it's already wearing petticoats, Tracy. Ruffled. Pink! Sound familiar?

    When I got it, it looked like this:


    P

  • 11 years ago

    She has come quite a long way, the Faux Red (Pink) Hassadee! Yes she does look familiar. Next weekend we will be pairing up our tree parts for some new Frankendeniums! I am looking forward to learning from the photographs of your process.

    If I send the rootstock on 9-28-15 it should arrive on 9-30-15. Hopefully they won't degrade during this time since they are younger. Maybe I'll wrap a damp paper towel around the roots. Plus I'll send extras just in case. Excited!

    Tracy