Nice score Breton! Happy birthday too.

i believe you just bought yourself a very pretty echeveria Liliana. Slow grower, prefers partial shade over full sun, and not touch friendly to maintain the white powdery coating.

i love your Portulaca molokiniensis! That's a great find! It's a native succulent only known to Hawaii. Very robust plant. I'm still trying to nurse mine that I had bought from ebay that was infested with mealy, apparently it has lost all its leaves, but putting out some new growth. It's Kindda tropical succulent. Not sure how it will grow through the winter. I believe lately, it's been quite widely distributed in the west coast, perhaps that's why they went brought into bbs stores commercially.

Thanks Marguerite and Bernard! I had a great day!

Bernard, do you mean Echeveria lilacina? Google photos look similar all right. I had a plant labeled E. lilacina years ago which struggled along pitifully before I gave up and composted it. Hopefully this one does better!

is the small Haworthia just attenuata, perhaps? Thought I knew that plant, but this one just seemed different...

Yea. Liliacina, almost similar spelling, you got what I mean.

How did your old plant die though? Bug attack? They are alittle picky on extreme weather, and love a more shaded environment but bright.

im not familiar with haws though..

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Nice plants, but now I want one of those Haworthias........even after wondering if all my plants are going to fit in the sunroom for winter. What the heck, it's small :-)

Ooooo... I LOVE that little Cheridopsis purpurea (or mislabeled plant)! I haven't seem those anywhere. (Runs off to ebay)

Bernard, not sure why it died, it just kept declining. I may have left it in crappy peat soil for too long and dehydrated the roots. No bugs, though!

glad to hear lilacina likes part sun and grows slowly! That makes it much less likely to etiolate during our long east coast winter indoors!

B,

E. lilicina DOES NOT like partial sun. Notice the colouring and farinaceousness? That's a full-sun plant if I've ever grown and seen one. It is slow-growing, but part-sun-loving it most certainly is not. Limit its winter-water intake to a minimum, put it in the sunniest spot you can (and out of the reach / touch of Baby B), and its etiolation will be minimal, put it in full sun (when you get it, in .....June?) and your plant will be a happy one.

Hi Jeff! Thanks for the correction! I had already put this one in some prime real estate on my south facing window, guess it will stay there! And it will get full sun when I put it out in the greenhouse in mid- May....

Baby B is very good about leaving plants alone, now that he's past trying to dig in their soil with tiny Tonkas. Though I do have to keep the watering can hidden...

How are things with you? Hope all is well!

Congrats and happy bday!
I'm almost certain the first haw is a H. minima. Second one seems to be H. retusa of some sort :)

Jeff -- I know in general Echeverias looks its best with full sun when the temp/environment is right. However, for a few specific species, especially the white ones with heavier farina tend to do better with some/part shade. For some reason, these typed of plants collapse/melt and have internal rot really easily (even faster with stale air) with prolonged intense sunlight.

Here's a quick debate on Howard's recently deceased Echeveria Moondust/ with parentage of Laui and Lilicina. I'm inclined to believe that these very sought after plants are very delicate and fragile, and generally fair better with some shade and slow growing, as per Harry's comment on growing his.

No, Bernard, you're ignoring the empirical evidence - the fact that there is farinaceous covering is evidence that these are full-sun plants. If they don't have it, it is evidence that they MAY be partial-sun plants, as many indigenous species grow in canyons which may only see a few hours of sun a day. It's simply not true that they'll collapse from intense sunlight - their morphological features allow them to grow best in full sun. If a few simple rules are followed, these plants are not delicate in cultivation - they're anything but. I'd suspect too much humidity lead to many plants' demise, but the fact that they come from high elevations in the Mexican state of Nuevo Leon is more evidence that they can handle sun, especially a lot of UV light.

Jeff, I am not ignoring evidences here, just trying to figure out why these type of plants are more prone to collapsing without cause or reason. I do know for sure that intense heat kills these plants easily, and so far there aren't much studies on such but only observational records as linked to the page on Howard's plants.

Hence my comment about the humidity, Bernard. Full sun doesn't always equate to intense heat. Given its origin and my experience, as well as perusing the plants of other folks, I've little doubt that it was the heat / humidity that did the plant(s) in. Perhaps there's some misunderstanding about what the glaucous covering does? It is for full-sun plants that don't have other protection (leaves / spines).

The coating is basically built-in sunscreen ( wish I had some of that!) No doubt these plants can tolerate full blazing sun, but they are never going to encounter full blazing sun AND high humidity in their natural environment, so it is perhaps not surprising that this combination can suddenly 'cook them' . They have not had to evolve tolerance to such conditions.

On a related note, my Echeveria laui was accidentally exposed to 49 degrees C and 99% humidity one day after my tiny greenhouse was accidentally left closed one spring day.... it showed no signs of distress. My suspected E. lilacina, however, showed signs of stress, though it was already not doing very well.

Cheers,

Breton

I believe it also depends on what conditions the plant was kept in prior to 'accident' - just like putting plants in full sun after being in relatively darker conditions is not recommended, it make sense that sudden high temps would be more stressfull on the plant - IMO. Don't forget the air circulation in case like breton describes. High temps+high humidity+stagnant air are not succulent's friend.

Rina

Asked about : Second pic just a guess seems to be a Haworthia pumila these are more spotted in texture ( Like a tear drop forming a three D outward effect) unlike the outward lateral linear texture like the H. Attenuata. Note with out a 3-D eye view it could very well be an Attenuata. On a limb it could be a cross of an haworthia and gasteria even though I have high doubts on it being a cross

Pic 4: Haworthia bayeri maybe ?

At this adobe a full sun summer high UV can hit 123 F. Even with added fans ( plural fans) there are very few succulents in my collection that can handle this heat on a daily basis during the longest day light warmest sun months/ days of the year. I spend a fair share of time shifting more than I care to mention to avoid this heat then trying to grow them in that heat.

Aside from my Haworthia ID guessing and how many succulents dont like heat rantting Happy belated B-Day

Jeff, I'm not arguing here about the amount of sun exposure these plants should have, and no doubt, more light will definitely benefit these naturally engineered faurina protecting the leaves.

But it is so much harder to keep the lower meristem and roots happy under full sun in a planted container (especially in the summer) to give it sufficient insulation to a point that it is tolerable that I rather keep it shaded.

I am still with Harry and Nomen on this one, I rather have it in shade and have it grow slowly but steadily, than putting it in full sun and have to constantly worry about finding the best way to cool the plant down.