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11 years ago

My 3,000 sq ft home is 20 years old and has the original rudd heating and ac. The AC is a 5 ton unit. The water Heater is 11 years old. The house has a weathermaker two zone system with ECOBEE thermostats controlling each zone.

This past summer the coil began to leak and rather then continue to repair an aging system, I decided to replace all of the components since they are all towards the end of their service life.

I received a quote for carrier equipment. The want me to step down in size from a 5 ton to a 4 ton.

The quote:

59SP5080-21-21 ECM 96% 80,000 BTU Furnace

48,000 BTU Two Stage AC 24ACB748A003

CNPVP4821ala SEER 16 EER 12.5 Coil

Bypass Humidifier 17 gal HUMCCLBP2417

Air Purifier PGAPAXXX2025CA (2000 CFM)

Carrier UV treatment One bulb UVLCC1LP1020

Navien Tankless WH NNPE-240-ANG- EF .9

Quoted Price is $17,500

My concerns are

1: Is the 4 ton too small? I have a lot of returns and vents about 28 vents and 6 returns, can a 4 ton handle that many?

2; Am I getting hosed? Seems like a high price for the carrier mid line equipment.

Comments (9)

  • 11 years ago

    What is you location? What a load calculation done? What thermostat has been quoted.

    Most likely the right size for the AC is in the 3.5-4 ton range. A 5 ton AC would seem over sized.

    It is difficult to comment on price because the tankless hot water heater is included. Even removing that the price does seem high. I would drop the UV light. It just a maintenance headache which does little for you. Is the air purifier an electronic cleaner? I would trade that in for a 4 inch media filter box.

    Are you having humidity problems in the winter? Low humidity is usually caused by air infiltration. I would rather see you spend money in making the house tighter than adding a humidifier.

    The Carrier 59SP5 furnace is a single stage model. I have concerns how it will work with your two zone system when only one zone is calling for heat. I think a 2-stage funace (multi or variable speed) would work more efficiently and quieter.

  • 11 years ago

    The load calcs were done, one called quote called for a 4 ton the other a 5 ton, the 5 ton was based/modified on the amount of registers.

    The water heater is about $3500 as a stand alone item so figure $14,000 for heating and AC. The thermostats are ECOBEE's and are currently installed, I'm keeping those.The air purifier is electronic and the current system has a 5 inch media filter box.

    Thanks for the comments much appreciated.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Location?... I would want another quote either from Carrier or sister company Bryant dealer for comparison purposes....I also suggest a quote from a plumbing company for the HW heater...I agree with Mike. I don't like that furnace selection.

    IMO

  • 11 years ago

    South Jersey. Sorry

  • 11 years ago

    the 17.5 quote was the lower of 2 from completing Carrier dealers. The other was 1500 higher.

  • 11 years ago

    I agree that with a zoned system a multi-stage unit would be better.

    In S. J, near shore or farther away? It might make a difference.

  • 11 years ago

    Im closer to Philadelphia than AC. Definitely inland.

  • 11 years ago

    Are you getting the tankless water heater in order to qualify for the NJ Energy Star program? Be aware that the prices under these programs are often inflated. People tend to buy things they don't need in order to qualify for a bigger rebate. I live in NJ and I am familiar on how it works. I personally don't care for it. I think most people are better off buying an HVAC system through a qualified dealer and not use the program.

    The number of registers has no affect on the load calculation. The is a another calculation that should also be done. Some contractors do calculations because they are forced to do them under the energy star program. They either don't know how to do the calculations or don't want to spend the time to do it correctly. You know one of the calculations has to be wrong, and a good chance they are both wrong.

    If you live near Mercer county I can send the contact of the Carrier dealer I use.

  • 11 years ago

    I'm down in Gloucester County but I do appreciate the offer. Thanks.