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Dark kitchen - needs lighting help

11 years ago
last modified: 11 years ago

My kitchen is dark. Dark wood floors, dark cabinets, medium tone counter. I plan to paint it shaker beige because that is the best color I've found that works with both the granite counter and the backsplash.

Before I paint I want to update the lighting fixtures. Currently, we have a b00b light over the island, and it always feels too dark for me. The island is 63" x 27". I've been looking at 3-light island fixtures, but would this be too big for my island?

This is the light I'm considering, but is it too big?

Dimensions Height: 47.00 inches Width: 50.00 inches Depth: 13.00 inches

This is the same fixture, but with 2-lights

Dimensions Height: 46.00 inches Width: 34.00 inches Depth: 13.00 inches

I will add that I'm not in love with these lights, but I'm having a heck of a time finding a set that includes a 3-light chandelier for over our kitchen table, an island light, and a light for over the kitchen sink. I want oil rubbed bronze. As a bonus I'd love to find a set that also included hall lights so I could get rid of the b00bs there too. Any sets that I saw that I LOVED were WAY too expensive!

Any help will be appreciated!

Comments (13)

  • 11 years ago

    I think the one you listed is too big for your island. is it 47 inches high? How tall is your ceiling? If 8' then the bottom of the light would be 12"above the island counter?

    The two light might work better but still seems too high unless you have really tall ceilings. The shades might be a bit bulky for a narrow island also.

    I 'm not sure you have to go with a "set" of the same fixtures through your house. They should work well with each other and maybe have the same finish but I don't think you have to have matching.

  • 11 years ago

    Do you have any pictures of your kitchen as it is now?

  • 11 years ago

    Missymoo12 - standard height ceilings. I was so focused on the length and width that I didn't even notice the height! Here are a few older photos. We have a standard oval table now, instead of the bar height table. The new table is also dark wood.

    At least you can now see the light fixtures that I want to replace. The b00b over the island is larger than the one over the sink, but otherwise they are the same. I desperately need more light! I'm open to mix-and-match sets, but I don't trust my ability in choosing. Thanks!

    This is our faucet, if it helps:

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Those listed heights seem off. Are you sure that's right?

    Ok, found it the 3-light fixture at Lowe's in brushed nickel. It comes with stem sections in lengths of 6, 12 & 18 inches. Maximum hanging length is 47.25 inches.

    Livex Somerset 3-light in brushed nickel

    They do have the 2 light fixture in bronze at a cheaper price. It also comes with the assorted stem lengths.

    Livex Somerset 2-light in Vintage Bronze $207.98

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Maybe the issue is the light bulb itself. Unfortunately, due to recent government mandates, you can no longer buy a true 100 Watt bulb. Many of the bulbs now claim to be "100 Watt equivalent" but really are not.

    Example: Those 72 Watt halogen bulbs give off 1450 lumens of light. Just before these began appearing on store shelves, a good 100 Watt 750 hour lifespan bulb gave off 1690 lumens. But it's worse than that because of how lumens are measured. The new halogen bulbs give off a slightly higher color temperature (not a bad thing in itself) that inflates the lumen value. In other words, the light from the old incandescent bulbs in actual practice felt "more full" and provided better illumination than it's lumen rating alone would suggest.

    Another example: There are special bulbs labeled 'rough service 100 Watt'. But the rated Wattage here is only theoretical because these bulbs would only actually be 100 Watts when operated on 130 volts. The voltage that comes out of your wall socket is 120 volts. That means that in reality the bulb consumes 88 Watts, and because the filament is glowing at lower temperature, it only gives off as much light as a regular 75 Watt bulb. Many people may be inadvertently using these rough service bulbs and have no idea why it is giving off less light.

    Then there are those twisty spiral compact fluorescent bulbs (CFLs). These things can often take 20-40 seconds to fully warm up, when you first turn it on it will only be at about 40% of its rated light output. But there's more. CFLs generally put out less and less light as they get older. A really cheap CFL can lose 30% of its light output after about 2 years of ordinary use. This forces many people to have to use a higher wattage than what they supposedly need.

    The law bans any Wattage higher than 72 Watts and less than 150, but is designed to automatically ban the 150 Watt bulb too if people buy too many of them. The idea was to try to force people to use less energy.

  • 11 years ago

    I am not sure I have a picture but I have a dark kitchen too. I should say HAD!. I have dark cabinets and dark floors. I had blue wall paint (what was I thinking) I had a light box on the top. I painted it lighter (the walls) and I do love it the new color. BUT, it was still dark., I am sure it looks crazy to some, but I have pot lights or whatever you call them all around the kitchen following the counters. There are three switches. Then I have a ceiling fixture mounted in the middle. I am sure it breaks all kinds of rules but WOW the light! the light!!!!! WHen they are all on it is fabulous. :)

    I toyed with getting fancy track lighting. I didnt really want to spend the money and DH was able to put in the pot lights.

    WHen we moved in (YUCK):

    after I went nuts and made the cabinets dark because I couldnt find anyone to paint them (sort of yuck):

    With new lighting (other things have changed, but the latest we have) (LOVE it now! :) )


    Don't get me wrong - if I had a lot of spare money I would change things. but overall I am happy! :)

  • 11 years ago

    I would tap into that ceiling light circuit and run a series of led lights just like in the picture above. And take out the existing one.

  • 11 years ago

    I had the same problem with lighting and my aging eyes needing more in the kitchen. I added these and I couldn't be happier. They are halogen, which is wonderful bright light and the flexible spotlights let me direct them into every corner of the kitchen. There are larger fixtures that you can run from the one ceiling source. You might be able to coordinate a style with the hanging island fixture you're looking at, or another similar one.


  • 11 years ago

    Olychick, do you have a picture of yours installed?

  • 11 years ago

    sorry, I don't, but can try to get one taken. I put in two units, one over the sink, one in the center of the room. I put in orb because of my cabinet hardware, but I would select white next time, just so they blend better with the ceiling, but the orb is fine. The spotlights make it so much easier to work at my counters and the halogen gets around the low watt bulb problem. Mine are probably 15 years old though, so not sure what current bulb configurations are being made. I can still buy the halogen bulbs to fit mine tho.

  • 11 years ago

    Halogen spotlights have the most wonderful quality of light, but for a kitchen recessed LED lighting is also a great. If you go with the LED option I would advise that you select a product with a CRI value higher than 90, otherwise the red colored objects, including wood cabinets and skin tones, can all look a little dull and dead. For the color temperature choose 3000K or 3200K.

  • 11 years ago

    Have you thought about painting your island cream? I think that would brighten up your kitchen a lot.

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