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Bamboo!

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I don't do much fabrication these days; it just doesn't pay like repairs, however, when I got a chance to fab some bamboo, which I've never done, I couldn't resist.

Of course the sink cabinet was delayed and uninstalled at template. The customer said she wanted the sink centered under the window, but I've learned that what customers want and what gets installed can be completely different. I marked the sink center from the window, but I roughed out the bamboo slabs long and cut the sink cutout onsite so I'm ready for whatever.

The cutout has been cut, sanded, and test fitted. There's going to be a random butt joint, but that's life. I've got 130" run and the slabs are 96 1/4". Note the tiny plastic laminate shim stack just above the left sink front corner. You can install your cabinets however you please, but my tops have to be on plane or my butt seam is doomed. And the sink flange wouldn't fit snug against the top bottom.

The top sections are laid on the siliconed sink flange and their's plenty of methacrylate squeeze-out at the butt joint. (It's the same stuff I use for solid surface; here I need color match, water resistance, and quick set-up.) A piece of scrap with a divot ground to jump the squeeze-out is hot melted to the deck to clamp and hold the pieces dead flush. Bar clamps pull the sink snug to the bottom of the top. Ooohh, lookit that bubble.

Tung oil finish, first coat, it won't be quite that glossy. Again, material yield precluded a miter joint in the corner. Symmetry freaks have to pay more for longer joints.

Yes, that's a little black shim below the left sink bottom that I should have pulled before taking the picture.

Bamboo end grain is different than long grain. Can I make 'em match? Sure, but the rabbeting's going to double the cost of the job. I'm going to have her have the cabinet installer caulk or trim my shim gap. It's not my fault he can't read a level. He'll hate me, the tile backsplash guy will love me. The slabs come 26" so there's a 2" overhang, so this gap is only visible when kneeling.

That is shadow, not tool burn, on the second picture in this group. There is no tool burn on this job, unlike some I've seen on Houzz.

5 1/2 hours to finish fabbing and installing a 7' x 11' "L". I'm getting a spanking on this one, but I'm not complaining, unlike the plumber when he has to RotoZip the back of the sink cabinet to install the faucet.

Comments (30)

  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful as always. I really like the end grain!

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked Texas_Gem
  • 10 years ago

    Oh, my, those are purty! Lucky customer for having you do her install.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked lisa_a
  • 10 years ago

    Ooh. I like that. Pretty!

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked sheloveslayouts
  • 10 years ago

    I really like that bamboo counter! great job... and bubble 'work'!

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked desertsteph
  • 10 years ago

    Joseph, how did you handle the butt joint at the intersection of the "L" legs? Mechanical fastening? Adhesive? None of the above?

    Beautiful work, BTW. And I like the interesting end grain, too.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked ci_lantro
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    I met this customer for the first time late yesterday afternoon when she stopped by to check out the progress of the job as she's not living in the home. She mailed me a substantial down payment after having read my reviews. Our emails are our contract, there is none signed. My kinda gal.


    She was very pleased and that was before the first coat of finish was applied.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    "Joseph, how did you handle the butt joint at the intersection of the "L" legs?"

    The yield on this job was critical. You always cut the longest pieces first, so if you screw up, you may get another chance. When I cross cut the second slab, that created a 20" drop which I wood glued (Titebond2) and bar clamped to create the "L" on the first piece I cut. There is no seam support underneath; if an inch and a half of Titebond isn't going to hold it, nothing will. Again, when tops are on plane, joints aren't under stress.

    By the way, bamboo makes maple seem like wet cardboard, at least when you sand it. It is very hard. Folks may have their doubts about Chinese quartz, but if they made these, their bamboo top slabs are second to none. And greenies remember, these tops took a slow boat from Asia to Oregon, then a truck to St. Petersburg, Florida.

  • 10 years ago

    Looks great, Treb!

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked mgmum
  • 10 years ago

    Beautifully done, Joe.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked javiwa
  • 10 years ago

    How does the cost compare to other countertop materials? I live close to that bamboo importer.

  • 10 years ago

    Great job, Tre! And hey, that looks like my sink (but installed under-mount).

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked Errant_gw
  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful! And nice work as always.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked nancyjwb
  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    "How does the cost compare to other countertop materials?"

    Northwest Bamboo charged $220.00 for each (4) 1 1/2" x 26" x 96 1/4" slab. $236.00 shipping for a total of $1,116.00. So I paid about $16.00 per square foot sitting on the pallet in the shop. I'm around $33.00 psf for labor and this will be the last one I do that cheaply. I'm not giving up my details like the overhang end edge profile returning to the refrigerator panel front edge (4th pic). I can't stand when guys cut those flush with the panel.

    I'm going to have to install 1" square tube through the back of the cabinets and pony wall to support a 16" cantilever on the other side of the kitchen. I won't do the work any other way, so people have to pay. If you can get bamboo installed for $49.00 psf, you're doing well.

    A skilled do-it-yourselfer with a rail saw, sander, and laminate trimmer could do well with bamboo. It is easier and more forgiving than plastic laminate.

    For comparison, Avonite charges fabricators almost $40.00 psf for certain solid surface colors.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    Errant_gw:

    Here's the sink. It is a very nice 15 gauge.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Thanks, Joe! I really appreciate this and all the info you kindly share here on GW.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked sheloveslayouts
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    that makes a very nice looking countertop at a quite reasonable price.

    I would be interested in hearing how well it does if someone leaves water standing on the surface. Yes, I know that's a sin...unfortunately, I seem to have given birth to a couple of children who believe that it is only necessary to wipe up spills if mom is home to see the drips.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    I work with Gene McDonald at Refresh Interiors in St. Petersburg, FL, quite a bit. He insists on a finish on bamboo and recommended the tung oil. Mineral oil is okay, but vegetable oil never really dries and attracts cockroaches. A little spilled coffee will stain raw bamboo.


    I'm sure an occasional re-coating and a coat of finishing wax will nearly bulletproof these tops.

  • 10 years ago

    Yes that little detail at the frig panel is nice. Great looking counters.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked enduring
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  • 10 years ago

    I'm pretty sure that this will be one of those "If you have to ask, you can't afford..." occasions, but I would be very happy to replace my double bowl Villeroy and Boch apron front with a sink from the line you linked to. Are they quite pricey? They are certainly pretty. Handmade apron front SS. Thanks! I am just not a responsible white sink owner.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked cluelessincolorado
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    cluelessincolorado:


    Sorry, but the sink was provided by the homeowner, so I have no idea how much they are. There is a somewhat similar Vico from Lowe's that's around $400.00.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    Regular readers have heard me talk about installing tops "on plane" with each other. As you can see, the aluminum straightedge is tight against the main top and indicates the small top is on plane with it. You can't just copy cabinets at template because they may not be on plane and/or out of square.

    On a related note, the stove opening sides must be square to the back wall as well as parallel; never mind what the cabinets are doing. You can't just put the framing square to the wall because the wall may be bowed or dipped so you have to put a longer straightedge against it then check for square.

    Yes, that's burned edge just below my elbow; I haven't sanded it yet. Gene's saw blade was dull, mine isn't.

    Always "X" your level at stove openings or you'll be getting a callback that somethin' doesn't look right when they slide it in and level it up.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    Scratches don't show up until the first coat of oil is applied. It takes an 80 grit paper to remove them. That would cut a butter dish in a solid surface top. This stuff is hard.

    Factory filler; of course it ends up on the highly visible peninsula end. Fortunately I just bought a wood floor repair kit.

    This was the only edge tear-out in all four slabs. I buried it in the peninsula seam.

  • 10 years ago

    Mercy, but that is some beautiful work, Treb. I just love the look of wood counters. Thanks for sharing it. I learn something new here every day.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked MizLizzie
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for info. Counters are wonderful, love the end grain!

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked cluelessincolorado
  • PRO
    10 years ago
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    I finished installing this on Sunday. The homeowner was there and took the pictures of me.

    Thanks everyone.

  • 10 years ago

    I have heard such conflicting things about the use of the bamboo. Where do you come out on the benefits and drawbacks between bamboo and Corian?

  • 10 years ago

    JOE - Thank you SO much for this post. I never would have considered bamboo without it. We picked up three 97" slabs from NW Bamboo today at $220 per slab and we're hopeful we can install them in our galley kitchen without too much trouble. The bamboo is very pretty and I think it'll look better than the laminate I had gotten bids for (which cost around 4 times as much.)

    Thanks again. And thanks for all of your GW contributions.

    Joseph Corlett, LLC thanked sheloveslayouts
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    benjesbride:


    Thanks so much. I enjoy sharing here; my successes and my screw-ups. The only payment I get is reader responses and that makes it all worth while.

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