I'm pretty sure the CC is now 5x 25k burners, 1x 8k simmer burner. (Obviously for the 6 burner variety)

Also, there is a $150 wok grate for the CC. I love it so far.

Thanks, Adam. I've heard of this CC simmer burner, but since I've been looking at the 30" hadn't seen it. That explains it. Also, good to know about the wok grate. Thanks for your reply.

No problem, glad to help.

i am unsure of the 30" configuration though. Does it come with 3x high burners and 1x simmer?

That is a question for Trevor @ Eurostoves.

Speaking of that, I recommend buying the CC (or G-d forbid the Bluestar ;)) from him. Forget Curtos and Leiberts, they have nothing on Trevor re: service and just general helpfulness.

Adam thanks for your comments.....

As for the the simmer burner that has now been resolved.

The CC comes in colors 10 standard and then 180 special order.

All ranges and range tops have 1 x 8k btu burner and the rest will be 25k Btu.

Through us the warranty is, 1 years manufactures parts and labor + a further 3 years of parts only with technical assistance.

Service would be the same utilizing independent appliance repair companies local to you.

Reliability both Capital and Bluestar have the same parts ie spark ignitors, modules, thermostats, glow bars and a fan. so no real difference

The Bluestar hot door has been addressed along with the hinges.

Racks on the manual clean Capital are pretty much the same as on the bluestar.

Cleaning I think the capital has the edge due to the drip pan, having said that nobody likes clean so its always a pain.

I contacted CC for a cosmetic issue on a spark igniter recently. The response from CS was quick and to the point. They mailed two to Canada, and I installed/replaced it myself and keep the spare for the future. Although it is on warranty this time, the price of the part is very reasonable (< $4 for a set (spark, washers, spring)). No complaints.

Drip pan is not a clean issue. Just lay a piece foil over the pan. The real work is cleaning those rails supporting the burners. :-)

Trevor, I really appreciate your reply and your dedication to your business and customers. So would it be fair to say that if I don't care about the aesthetic difference, I might as well save myself some dough and buy the BlueStar?

"CC is 600 cheaper", how could you save money from buying BS?

eshmh, right, duh, CC is cheaper.

Trevor, thanks again, I'll be in touch when we're ready to purchase.

We have owned a BS 36" for 4 years and it has been great. I have no problem with either brand it is a personal choice as to which best suits your needs. The $600.00 is not important if you don't get what you want. Buying either one requires another large investment in installing a proper hood. All these high power burners are great, but you have to vent all that steam, smoke, and smell. You cannot buy a cheap hood. If you cannot buy one that will handle these ranges then don't buy either range. I ended up with a Modernaire hood and a remote blower. With a appropriate hood you will enjoy your range. These ranges can be $5k and the hood can be another 2-3K. You want power be prepared to spend for the hood.

Hi Trevor, I was browsing the Capital website and i see the all burners(Culinarian) rated at 23K BTU and don't see the 25K BTU and the 8K BTU anywhere on the page. Is this information on this webpage old?

http://www.capital-cooking.com/product/390#features

All burners are actually all 25k now, having said that each range or range top will have 1 x 8k small pan burner

Capital updated the user manuals stating it is 25k as Trevor said. Why they don't bother to update the website is beyond my understanding. :-)

Aah i see, thanks for sharing. So they actually reduced their combined BTU firepower from 138 to 133.

Yes, but it is not the point. Offering an 8K burner is a big plus for small pots and extra low simmer. CC users wanted the small burner back. Capital listened to the request and offered it. I believe Trevor also contributed to the process. I use it all the time.

Thank you and understood. I don't mean to hijack this thread and with all due respect to the OP, may I ask what kind of hood you went with for your Culinarian ? We are planning on installing a 36" Culinarian RT and our cabinet maker is recommending a 42" 600 CFM VAH Magic Lung. He says the wider and deeper hood (24") will more than make up for the lower CFM. Any ideas?

Not considering the style, I have the same except it is 900. I almost always use 900 when woking.

I would go with 42" wide x 27" deep mounted 32" above the counter. using a 600 cfm blower but better would be 1200 cfm. Go 1200 cfm if your adding a grill or griddle. Also look elsewhere other than the VAH its a popular name but not all its cracked up to be. Your cabinet maker only recommends the magic lung due a lack of knowledge in the Appliance world.

Yeah, mine is 27" deep as well. VAH does not charge extra for 27" anyway, so why not. :-)

VAH works very well for me, especially low noise at 900 CFM for internal blower type. I need stick my head in the path to smell the food in cooking well. But if you can do external blower, which is not an option for me, then go for it for sure. Otherwise, I don't think VAH is a bad choice, except it is pretty expensive and has the "magic" word.

Thank you again for your responses.

The look that i am trying to go for is a custom cabinet surround for the 42" VAH(below). The cabinet maker Schuler (we are getting cabinets for Lowes) only works with VAH and they offer only 21" deep(400 CFM) and 24"(600 CFM). The 900 CFM model is only available for the 48" wide hood and i think it would be overkill for the 36" RT. I am so glad we have forums like these which help folks like us get unbiased opinions from experts like Trevor.

Our design right now for the hood -

Having said that, our home is a custom build and we have some degree of freedom in terms what we can and cannot pick for the range hood. Our budget for the hood is $1500-$1750. There are many ways i see range hoods shown on the internet and i have listed a few that i see below but not sure which one would be more efficient and bring biggest bang for the buck without having being sent to the washers. Can you please recommend?

1. Hood sticking out of the cabinet

https://www.houzz.com/photos/white-english-country-kitchen-traditional-kitchen-new-york-phvw-vp~380573

2. Just the range hood venting out with no cabinets around it.

https://www.houzz.com/photos/stainless-steel-range-hood-phbr0lbl-bl~l_143103

3. Hood with cabinet surround

https://www.houzz.com/photos/barrington-ri-kitchen-traditional-kitchen-boston-phvw-vp~98361

I personally like option 3 but i think its the most expensive. I would then settle for option 1. If if pick option 1 then which ranges would you guys recommend that would go well with the Capital 36" RT?

Thank you in advance.

If not considering style, VAH has 900 CFM for 42", e.g. NEPTH18-342, NPH9-342, PRH18-342, etc. 900 CFM is definitely not overkill. Actually it is even less than the recommendation by the Home Ventilating Institute (HVI) to divide the BTU rating of your stove by 100 to arrive at a minimum guideline for CFM rating.

Just wanted to confirm whether the capital culinarian is 23 or 25k max btu? Some publications have one and some have the other number.

Wcliu, if you read this thread, it is confirmed that the burners are 25k btu.

Any updates here? What did you end up purchasing? How do you like it?