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Smoothtop to Induction

10 years ago

I'm finalizing up on kitchen appliances in my new build. I'd dearly LOVE induction, but the induction ranges I can afford have the controls in the back, not the front (the latter type of range would be ADA compliant, and there will be no small children other than occasional guests).

So, I plan to put in a smoothtop electric range instead.

When I do move to induction, would the electrician need a different form of connection in the back of the appliance -- and if so, is this something he should wire in now, or do we deal with this when I do replace the smoothtop for induction?

Comments (9)

  • 10 years ago

    The voltage is not the issue; potentially higher available current is. The conductors in the wiring for your range should have the ampacity (current rating in the environment under consideration) needed for the most powerful induction range that you are considering for the future, or for the electric range, whichever is greater. The initial circuit breaker used to protect this wiring should be sized for the electric range's needs, and upgraded later if necessary for the induction range.

    Most versatile will be three conductor with ground cabling. Some induction cooktops can be fed by two conductor with ground cabling because they do not require a neutral conductor. This could apply to some induction ranges.

    Downloading the installation guides for the candidate electric range and potential future induction range may provide further insights, and will be helpful to your electrician.

    kas

    artemis_ma thanked kaseki
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    You said that this is a new build. No worries, then.

    You will get a four-wire connection as a matter of course. It will be at least a 40 amp circuir which has been been standard for a couple of decades now. It runs most electric ranges including a goodly portion of the present crop of induction ranges.

    But, have the builder pull wiring for a 50 amp circuit --- the magic words are "6 gauge AWG cable." In my neighborhood, that's actually standard these days in both new builds and remodels.

    If the builder is not already doing it, have it done now because it is a cheap upgrade before the drywall gets installed.

    You want the bigger wire for the flexibility of later being able to add one of the higher end electric stoves which specify a 50 amp circuit. For example, some radiant ranges now have double ovens and/or "fast boil" power burners rated up to 3000 watts or even 3500 watts. Likewise, some induction models require a 50 amp circuit, as well..

    I'll also second writersblock's suggestion to check out the Frigidaire Gallery FGIS3065P induction slide-in. The price is about mid-pack for the "freestanding" kinds of induction ranges you apparently looked at but don't want. The AJM price is $1490 (in cart.) Today, when I was helping a friend get some replacement appliances for his rental property, I saw that both our local Lowe's and a nearby appliance chain had that Frigidaire priced at $1570.

    BTW, that Frigidaire specifies a standard 40 amp stove circuit.

    artemis_ma thanked jwvideo
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I saw that both our local Lowe's and a nearby appliance chain had that Frigidaire priced at $1570.

    Are you sure about that? Our local lowes charges that for the regular radiant frigidaire slide-in and when I search for the induction range by model number I always get "no results". If yours has it I'm insanely jealous.

    artemis_ma thanked writersblock (9b/10a)
  • 10 years ago

    Writersblock, I'd seen that one but didn't realize that by putting it in the shopping cart there'd be that big a reduction! Thanks Kaseki and jwvideo for the wiring primers. I think I'll go get the electrician to just think big and wire up for 50 amps, so no matter what I get, I'm set.

    (I was also hoping for all black appliances, but since the top and window frame of the Fridgidaire is black, my fridge and D/W can remain black... More important to have the controls ADA compliant...)

  • 10 years ago

    Writer'sblock --

    The one at our local Lowe's had a tag with the "FGIS" model number and "Induction!" in big black letters. Maybe it was a floor model clearance? I say that because, like you, I'm not finding it listed on Lowe's website anymore, either.


    artemis_ma thanked jwvideo
  • 10 years ago

    Or maybe you're in a test area. That's interesting, thanks.

    Artemis_ma, I think it would look fine with the other appliances black.

    artemis_ma thanked writersblock (9b/10a)
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Since the portion of their regular 10% discount ends today...

    And because everything else seems good, and the appliance itself is top quality...

    I just bought it from AJ Madison. With a 3-year warrantee ($89 bucks) this brought the cost to 1.5K, and the appliance IS ADA, has five burners, and is also induction....

    There's a back order, but the service rep (or whomever) will call my GC and schedule delivery, which will be delivered free, and without sales or delivery tax. There's also a claim of about $200 more in rebates, but whether or not they materialize (and what those mean), I'm happy.

    I seriously want to thank everyone who responded here!!! You truly helped!

  • 10 years ago

    Good to hear. Please post back after you get it installed and let us know how it works out for you.