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mack_doggs

New Grower here

10 years ago

Hi everyone! I recently bough a large property with man green houses. My original intent was to grow bamboo, carnivorous plants, and tropical flowers. However the previous owner was a bromeliad farmer, so there is still a very large stock of many bromeliads left on the property. I've always liked these plants but in the past couple weeks I've started to fall in love with them. I've decided to continue growing bromeliads along with the other plants I intended to grow.
I have a question for you more experienced growers here.
The previous owner was primarily a chemical guy, where as my background is in organic gardening. Is anyone here growing their bromeliads with organic methods? Organic fertilizers? Broms have somewhat unique nutritional requirements and I'd like to avoid using chemical ferts if possible, but I don't want to fuck too many up experimenting with organic ferts.
Effective organic pesticides? I've been looking into tobacco powder, red pepper powder and the like. Are these effective against mealy bug, scale, and weevil? Do they hurt the plants at all? Too caustic? I'm sure tillansias would not like it, but I'm mostly focused on neo and aechmea.
Thanks everyone, looking forward to hearing your wisdom.

Comments (3)

  • 10 years ago

    I have never, ever fertilized my broms here in S. Fl. I have hundreds and they are beautiful. I'm sure I should but they seem to be doing just fine. They are in pots, some buried, some not but were potted up with a good enriched potting soil. I flush the cups out about every other month. I'm sure someone will chime in with whats the best fert method. Just know that if you forget for like a year they will be a-ok LOL.

  • 10 years ago

    Hi everyone.

    Matthew – I
    understand where you’re coming from as I too am reluctant to use chemical
    sprays and always look for a more natural alternative where ever possible.
    Although I haven’t tried all of the remedies below, I know of growers who have
    had success with them and have no hesitation in passing them on to you.

    First let
    say that the old saying of “prevention is better than cure“ could well be
    applied to plants, and if you can keep the insects away, the problem goes away
    with them. I found out when using a very safe and low toxicity insecticide
    called Clensel”, that one of the ingredients (citronella) is a very good insect
    repellent and by simply spraying this insecticide or citronella oil around the
    rim of the pot, the usual flying insects just seemed to vanish, and this is the
    method I’ve been using ever since.

    The other
    insects that sometimes infests bromeliads (especially in over-crowded
    situations) are Scale and Mealy Bug. These I find can easily be controlled
    safely with Rob Smythe’s Canola Oil Spray -
    See http://fcbs.org/articles/canola.htm. 

    As for
    fertilising; if bromeliads are grown in the garden they will usually find their
    own nourishment. As for pot grown plants, I find that they will grow quite
    happily without added fertiliser as there are usually sufficient additives in
    good quality commercial potting mixes. If you make your own mix, to feed them
    naturally, just the addition of some type of animal manure will usually
    suffice. They are very resilient plants and are natural survivors.

    Although I
    say this, it doesn’t mean bromeliads won’t respond much better when appropriate
    fertilisers are used at the correct rate. Indeed many commercial growers over
    fertilise in my opinion and apply fertilisers each time plants are watered, but
    these growers have the experience and know the exact rate the plants will
    tolerate.

    For an
    inexperienced “backyard grower” to over fertilise, they are often courting
    disaster and if for example the recommended dose makes the plant grow well,
    doubling or tripling that dose won’t necessarily make the plant grow two or
    three times better and can in fact sometimes lead to its demise.

    In habitat,
    most of our commonly grown brom’s grow on trees and the only fertiliser they
    get comes from a “soup” (very dilute natural fertiliser) in the central vase
    which is manufactured from a breakdown of water, fallen leaf litter and bird
    and small animal droppings. As these things break down they make a very dilute
    natural fertiliser which is available to the plant on a continuous basis.

    Many of the
    old time vegetable gardeners would (and some still do) successfully copy this
    “little and often” method by using very dilute poultry and/or animal manures on
    a weekly basis, (Weakly and weekly) in their quest to stay away from chemical
    fertilisers.

    When I was a
    boy (a very long time ago) the accepted method of making poultry manure was to
    tip a gallon tin of poultry manure into a hessian bag and suspend it in a large
    garbage bin full of water. This was allowed to steep for about three weeks and the
    subsequent liquid was diluted with water until it was the colour of “weak tea”
    and applied each month.

    If it was
    applied more often to conform to “little and often” standards, this weak tea
    was diluted even further by mixing one part to four parts of water which
    resulted in an almost clear liquid. This could then be safely applied each week
    and many gardeners said it produced a much better result than the monthly feed.

    I hope the
    above goes some way in helping you to grow brom’s using natural methods.

    All the
    best, Nev.

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Matthew,

    A healthy well fed plant generally won't be susceptible to disease and bug attack.

    If you balance sunlight/heat and water and nutrients/fertilizer you will get maximum growth, remove one of these components from the equation and you won't get optimal results.

    Small outbreaks of soft scale and mealy bug is easily hosed off with a jet of water, larger outbreaks or hard/fly speck scale can be controlled by submerging your bromeliad for 24hours in a pond or bucket (when temps are warm).

    Scale tends to attack weaker plants, softer plants are often targeted first as are variegates with lots of white in the leaf (due to no chlorophyll being produced by white pigments) - you can use this to your advantage, find a plant that is susceptible and use that as your trigger to manage your disease regime.

    Seasol is a seaweed extract in Australia which is a good tonic to strengthen plants and prevent disease - I'm not sure if there are similar seaweed/seawater type extracts in the US but they would be worth trying.

    Fertilising (organic or non-organic) when done properly will generally produce stronger plants and greatly increase the number of offsets produced.

    Potash will help make plants stronger and will encourage the development of flowers.

    Cheers,

    Rick

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