Thats what I was just reading. Since I have no personal experience with Eden. I was also looking at The Garden Diary a blog by a lady in Indiana. She mention hers gets to be about 8ft for her. Like Jasmine said the canes appeared thick enough to grow as a shrub.

I have heard this one is especially cold sensitive, but I would not let that stop you. The canes on mine are very thick and stiff at the base, I think it could be grown as a shrub, but you might want to tie the long ends to something.

Mine gets damage during some winters, so it might not work out. She always grows back, but she also took one year off from blooming once we got some polar vortex cold that took all her canes out. Still, real temps were zero or just below that!

But that might be unusual; mine's (grafted) base was kind of old and funky and might have needed the rejuvenation anyway. The new canes came back wonderfully. They just grew instead of blooming that year.

Mine takes to being a shrub very nicely. She's more stiff and upright than many shrub roses I've bought, but she still arches nicely, too.

In my zone, it stays relatively short. Then again it is only two years old. It doesn't flower much but when it does it is very beautiful. However compared to a lot of roses I have, it is quite healthy and bushy. It most likely won't be a climber in my zone but it is a beautiful shrub.

The line on it here is that it is essentially a once-bloomers, and like the rest of those, needs to overwinter some cane to bloom.

Kelly, I'm so glad you asked this. I have always thought Eden is one of the most beautiful roses I've seen (from photos). I am in MN, zone 4, as well. I have been too chicken to try Eden so far. If you do try it, please post your results. I will do the same if I end up getting one. It probably won't be this year though.

Thanks,

Julie

Thanks, Julie. What part of MN are you residing? Im in Albertville about 30-35 miles nw of minneapolis.

Hi Kelly, I live in Livonia about 40 minutes north/east of Albertville.

What roses have worked for you Mnkitty?

I have my Eden in the zone 4 pocket of my zone 5 yard, where the daffodils and tulips are at least 2 weeks behind the rest of the yard and only the hardy survive. The good news is that Eden has survived in this spot for a good 6 years, even through polar vortex years. The bad news is that she really only wants to bloom if there is surviving cane, and that doesn't happen on a normal cold winter. I think out of the 6 (maybe 7 years) I've only had bloom once or twice. There's cane left this year after a very mild winter, so it'll be another bloom (I hope).

Bottom line is that you can probably grow it, but without some added protection of the canes to give another zone's worth of leeway, it may not bloom for you. As madgallica says, even when I get bloom it's usually only once with a scattered bloom or two afterwards.

Cynthia

QUADRA

JOHN CABOT

JOHN DAVIS

SVEN

ASPIRIN ROSE

MUSIC BOX

HERITAGE

WEDGEWOOD ROSE

LA REINE

GEOFF HAMILTON

ST. CECILIA

ST. SWITHUN

CAREFREE BEAUTY

PROSPERO

THE PRINCE

RUGOSAS -would, but they get rose gall horribly here

CHAMPAGNE WISHES

JOHN F. KENNEDY

Others I have in pots, I'll plant this year and see. What has worked for you, Kelly?

Thanks,

Julie

I have mostly Austins

Charlotte

Lady of shalott

Windermere

Darcy bucell

Abraham Darby

Alnwick

Jubilee celebration

Princess Alexandra of Kent

Golden celebration

Fishermans friend

Tess of the durbervilles

Tradescent struggles as does Benjamin Britten and tropicana

Non Austins

The fairy

Sven

A few random ones from QVC probably mislabled as gruss an aachen and Margaret merril

Gallicas do well here too.

Hi Kelly, Do you buy your Austins online, or have you found them anywhere locally? I haven't seen them in any nurseries around here. The only place I know of in MN is Sam Kedem's, and he's not real close.

No, I usually purchase them directly from DA

Kelly there is a fantastic one in Montreal Botanical garden, height was around 5'.

However, the gardeners told us that they roll the canes in some sort of a box to protect it every winter.

It is definitely a high maintenance rose, if you're up to all the protection work in fall then go for it....

Hi Kelly, I'm definitely interested. What does PM mean?

MNKitty-Personal Message. Click my picture and you should be able to send me a message directly.

Or you can email me-

collovas@yahoo.com

Hi Kelly, I just tried messaging you. It didn't seem to work. Either that or you're 3 of the same message.

Please let me know.

Thanks,

Julie

I don't see anything Julie. Try my email. Collovas@yahoo.com