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Kitchen Layout Help Please, New Construction!

10 years ago

We are building a custom home. This is the kitchen in the first draft plans from our architect and it's nothing at all like what I want.

Would you all be willing to help me redesign this thing? This is new construction and we're still in the initial early planning phases, so walls can move, rooms can grow and shrink and wiggle. I want to live in this house forever, so this kitchen is really important.

I would like to maintain the adjacencies. To the left of the kitchen is the living room/family room. To the north is the dining room. We will not have another formal dining room. We want all three spaces mostly open to each other, but are not opposed to columns, wide archways, etc, to define edges. The "back porch" can go away entirely, as can the door. The window you see in the upper left corner will need to be a door to get to the actual back porch and grill area.

Must-haves:
Separate clean-up and prep sinks/zones
A ton of counter space
Counter-height bar seating for the kids. Min 3 seats, 5 would be better, but I know that's a lot.

How we function in the kitchen:
I cook dinners 6 out of 7 days per week and breakfasts on the weekend. I love to cook and most of what I make is from scratch. My current kitchen is a C shape and most of the counter space is in the corners. It is maddening.

My spouse cleans up and he likes to do so while I'm still cooking. We fight over the sink a lot. Hence the separate sinks!

My kids love to be in the room with me, which, in our current kitchen, means they are underfoot. I want bar seating so they can sit and help and be close by without being in the way.

We "entertain" less than once per month. What I mean by that is we have close friends and family over. We do not have fancy dinner parties or formal gatherings. Very informal, and the only kind of friends we invite over are the ones who we wouldn't mind seeing our mess, if there is one. So I'm not concerned with "hiding" the kitchen.

I also bake as a hobby, so counter space is again at a premium. I love kitchen gadgets and small appliances. I would love a walk-in pantry to store pans, counter appliances, etc, where they are easily accessible but not "out," if you get what I mean.

This is my first draft idea. What do you think? I obviously made it bigger than the architect drew it - I used some of the length of the first kitchen to create a pantry and relocate the half bath and then added about a foot in the length. (The bathroom and pantry are 5'-0" wide.) The living room is to the left. I took up the width that was inset as a "back porch" and put that in the kitchen. I increased the width by 2' also. I tried to locate the cleaning zone near the dining area and barstool seating. I also wanted the double ovens near the cooktop - quite a few of my go-to dinners involve searing and then finishing in the oven, so I didn't want to have to trapse too far across the kitchen with a hot pan!

Do you think my kitchen layout works? What problems do you see? Do you think the long side of the island would be better facing the living room to act as a sort of buffer?Thank you so much for your advice!

Comments (3)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Welcome MamaCat21!

    You have a good eye for knowing what's not right in kitchen design - the architect was probably going for looks, not function - and you want function (as well as looks, I'm sure). You'll fit right in here - most of us are the same way! (The architect's kitchen would be very frustrating to work in!)

    Your family sounds a lot like ours and how we use our kitchen - prepping/cooking & cleaning up going on at the same time and kids wanting to be with you when you're in the kitchen. I don't know how old your children are, but they will also be learning to cook & clean up soon and adding to the mix of people working in the kitchen at the same time!

    Some comments:

    • If there are more than two or three seats at an island (or peninsula), some should be "around the corner". Straight seating like the island has now is often compared to "ducks sitting in a row". It's not conducive to conversation & bonding; it's more like diner counter seating with strangers. So, I recommend at least one, if not two, seats on at least one short side.
    • I would turn the island 90 degrees so the long side is along the range wall.
    • How do you feel about prepping in the island? It would mean turning to get to the range, but many people are OK with it and even prefer it b/c then they can prep facing people or other rooms. Right now, with no water in the island and with it's current orientation, it's doubtful it would be of much use as a primary Prep Zone.
    • You have your prep sink along the perimeter so you're prepping next to the range - so you may prefer prepping that way. If so, that's fine. However, you don't have enough counterspace b/w the range and prep sink. The bare minimum recommended is 36", but 42" to 48" is much better. Note that much more than 48" and it can be too much b/c of the distance b/w the sink and range. Right now, it looks like you have 24" - and I can tell you from personal experience that 24" is nowhere near enough!

    Do you have a draft layout of the floor the kitchen is on? It helps us see the flow of the house and the potential traffic through the kitchen.

    Where is the family entrance - usually a garage entrance?

    mamacat21 thanked Buehl
  • 10 years ago

    Hi buehl, thank you so much for your helpful comments! Well, we've had to go back to the drawing board, and ended up flip-flopping the layout of the entire house. This is what I'm working with now!

    The garage is detached, easily reachable from either entrance, so I imagine groceries could come in either door just the same. The house plans are not finalized, so walls can move a bit here and there. I've been playing with two kitchen layouts.

    This one gives me a nice wide island for prepping, although it does have the problem of "ducks in a row." I thought maybe a curved counter would help break it up some? I would imagine a full-height cabinet to fill the space beside the refrigerator. In this one, I wonder where I would keep my dishes. I'm used to keeping them in an upper cabinet. I would think maybe two uppers above the dishwasher and clean-up sink. It would certainly be convenient to unload the dishes and put them away right above. And it's nice to be located near the dining room. Maybe two windows flanking the stovetop then.

    This one would be nice in having a counter adjacent to the dining room, and a nice window in the corner. I could maybe do back to back cabinets in the peninsula, and have fine dishware storage on the dining room side? What about the island, is it too small? The seats aren't in the work triangle, although they are certainly more "in" the kitchen than the other layout.

    Are these plans putting my dining room too far from the fridge? I'm just thinking about eating dinner and having to go get condiments from the fridge, or refill a spilled drink for a child. I don't know.

    I welcome all comments. Please comment on the rest of the house as well, if you see something. I'm cross-posting the house plan in the other forum as well, but I wanted to come here for kitchen specific advice!

    Thank you all so much for looking!

  • 10 years ago

    Do you cook all your meals, or only dinner? For breakfast, is it cereal, fruit, and toast, or is it waffles/oatmeal/eggs? Do you make lunches in the morning? At noon every day, or only on weekends? I really appreciate having my dishes and flatware right at the peninsula where we make breakfast and lunch, and right beside the dishwasher. But we only use the cooktop and oven daily at dinner. DH makes himself eggs in the a.m., but other than that the cooker is off. So I kind of have dinner-prep-zone and other-meals/snacks-prep-zone.

    I wonder if you moved the oven to by the fridge (it can use the island as a landing pad) and the prep sink to the working wall, would you like that big island clear for baking on? (Disclaimer: I don't have a prep sink so any ideas regarding it are made without experience) The prep sink is also in a good spot so you don't drip across the floor from sink to pan, and handy for handwashing, being not quite in the middle of the work zone.

    I also moved the pantry door over to bring the fridge closer to the action. You could put drawers next to the oven for your hot pads, thermometers, foil, etc.

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