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Epic Garden Failures

I was inspired by the title of another thread "Garden Flops". I imagine most serious gardeners have their share of garden failures, quite a number of them epic. Perhaps I have more than my share. I've returned to thinking about my cloud garden idea of some years ago. This is down in the woods just below the shade garden: I had this fantasy of yellow and white Lady Banks roses and forms of Clematis montana climbing up into the trees (which are mostly flowering ash, of moderate height as trees go), scrambling around in the crowns of the trees in a froth of pink and yellow and white and dropping fragrance. The clematis planted years ago died, and the one yellow Lady Banks grew extremely slowly, not surprising given that it was perched on the edge of a rock. All the woodland is mightily lacking in topsoil, because it's on the site of an old landslide that carried all the dirt away back in the 1950s; and such ground as there is is netted with roots. So I wrote off this project as I thought permanently, but these days I'm thinking about it semiseriously (perhaps one quarter seriously). I've been terracing the woodland, piling up prunings and cut wood; there's a few more years of growth and available organic matter; I've widened one path with dirt brought in, which MIGHT give room for the roots of a clematis; and a second Lady Banks rose--which turned out to be another double yellow like the first--likes its quite damp spot and is growing heartily. Well, so, perhaps this fall I'll look for a clematis or two, and perhaps I'll give a thought to propagating my Rosa longicuspis. It's never been happy in its current spot, and if I could make a baby and find a suitable place for it, I'd have a better plant. Though now that I think of R. longicuspis flowers late. So the double white Lady Banks, which is growing with monstrous vigor on its too-small pergola.

There's an early white clematis similar to the Montanas: can someone tell me its name?

I have many and many epic fails, and many of them are like the cloud garden: I fall back and think about my mistakes, and in time try again. I REALLY want good warm climate roses, and am alive by now to the importance of much lighter soil than what we have here. I don't know yet if I can get the soil in condition where they'll grow happily, but am working on it. I've killed more Teas, Chinas, and Noisettes than I care to think about. But I'm going to try again.

So, what are YOUR epic fails?

Comments (8)

  • 10 years ago

    Most of my gardening is based on failures, trial and error and learning the hard, wallet and back breaking way. Most of my failures can be classified into 3 classes:

    . Planting too large a plant into too small a space

    . Planting plants not tolerant of my high pH soil. You can't imagine how many plants like these exist..

    . Not having soil in the first place or trying to plant where the stone worker had dumped all the stone debris many years ago..


  • 10 years ago

    When I first moved in here 25 years ago I knew nothing about anything. I bought one of those "instant garden" group of plants from a catalog - it looked so nice in the picture! I ran around one area and planted all of the plants (can't remember, but I am sure I did not do it correctly). Anyway, within about 12 months they had ALL disappeared. Remarkably, about 6 years ago I noticed a large day lily starting to bloom which I had no idea where it came from. I was VERY puzzled. I finally decided it must have been one of the plants I had planted years ago, and had been somehow waiting its chance to grow! It blooms every year now - I think plants are amazing.

    Jackie

  • 10 years ago

    Melissa, just to say, I wonder if the early Clematis you are referring to is Clematis armandii of which the usual variety is 'Apple Blossom', or it could be Clematis cartmanii 'Early Sensation'... both are popular over here..and both evergreen...

  • 10 years ago

    Melissa, other than the ones Marlorena mentioned, the two early clematis that came to mind are Clematis cirrhosa and C. alpina. C.cirrhosa is much the more rambunctious one of the two.

    John

  • 10 years ago

    I suppose the epic fail is my garden since the drought, but that's being a bit dramatic. MY epic fail has been to discard roses too easily rather than trying to plant them in a different spot where they might have thrived or, in two particularly numbskull instances, yanking out Hoag House Cream and Cl. Lady Hillingdon for no particularly good reason that I can fathom now. It still hurts whenever I allow myself to think about it. My other epic failures are not enriching the soil before putting in a single plant and installing a drip system at that time. It was all done piecemeal and without much planning, and at that time I really had no clue how awful the soil and radiant heat were up here. I suppose, given all that, my epic success is that I have a garden at all!

  • 10 years ago

    The hosta, and eastern US shade garden plants and bulbs I planted from mail order under my pines when I was just getting started. Massive disappointment in my early 20s. Then I discovered the Sunset Western Garden book.

  • 10 years ago

    It's all about the learning curve, I see. I made Ingrid's mistake of not understanding how much amendment the soil in my garden needed, producing possibly the most epic of all my failures. If Ingrid and I averaged our two soils we might do nicely, but that's not how gardens work. I've also made Molly's mistake of not thinking of flowering times when I planted flowers for combined effect. Nik's conditions are hard, and the only good thing I can say about them is that his garden is going to be distinctive because he's forced to choose plants that will grow there, and they'll have a particular character. We have a few areas where our predecessors piled rocks. DH didn't like the idea of them as refuges for snakes and had a couple of loads of topsoil dumped over them. Since then they've been valued parts of the garden, since they're the only zones we have which are actually free draining.

    Marlorena and John, thanks for the suggestions. I looked into 'Apple Blossom', as being the most likely, but the clematis I was was white, early, large, and looked like a C. montana type. So the obvious occurred to me,and I searched for a white Clematis montana, and found one. I think that's the plant I saw. I may be looking for potential planting sites in my wood for clematis and a white Lady Banks, though this last will have to be propagated starting next fall. I don't usually take cuttings of my monstrous climbers, as I don't know where I might put them.