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Need sink replacement

10 years ago


I currently have an undercount sink that's chipped and discontinued (American Standard, Americast 7145). I wanted to replace it with a darker color but can't find one to fit the existing space since the granite is cut for the specific sink. How do I fit a new sink into that "hole", or can I cut a new, larger hole for a new, larger sink? The company didn't have any suggestions and I can't find a replacement on e-bay. Thanks!

Comments (47)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    You can do a top mount. Maybe. An undermount sink of such a specific cutout is a bad marriage with no hope of divorce. Especially one on a diagonal like that that required cutting of the sink cabinet to even shoehorn it in. A 33" standard sink is gonna eat up the same hole that that does, but that has the additional offset that won't work with most replacements. You'd need to replace the stone. And if you're gonna do that, you should take the opportunity to tweak the layout so there isn't a corner sink.

  • 10 years ago
    Find a sink that's bigger and have it cut. The fabricator/granite person, if they'll even do it, will not guarantee your granite won't crack. You should have reserves to pay to replace your countertops in hand.

    *maybe* contact a custom sink shop. Soapstone, granite, or maybe even stainless would be an option. I have to question on whether it would be cheaper to replace the countertops.

    Go on a sink hunt. Somewhere in some corner of the planet is a NIB version of your sink sitting on a shelf marked clearance.
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    No one who has ever owned an Americrap sink ever wants another one. It's enamel and plastic. Even if you found one exactly the same, new in the box, and free, it's a terrible choice. Baltic Brown is a cheap granite. And recutting that hole to fit anything but a top mount isn't gonna happen. Top mount may not even happen without a creative flange.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you for your helpful, and some not-so-helpful comments. The one on e-bay is not available; I had done that research already... We are selling the house, and we have quite extensive countertop area, so you can see why I don't want to put a lot of money into this project replacing all of the granite as well as the sink. I will research the suggestions made, and appreciate any others to be offered.

  • 10 years ago
    Can you have the sink reglazed like they do for bathtubs? Don't know...just asking. Hopefully more people familiar with that process will chime in.
  • 10 years ago

    You know how there's a way to "cover" a pink bathtub and make it white? Maybe the same technology could be used for your sink?

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Yes, and there's a local facility that does reglaze, and I believe can change color. I will look into it as an alternative. Thank you for the suggestions rocketjcat and doctornancy.

  • 10 years ago

    Sophie Wheeler is wrong. That sink is NOT enameled plastic. It is enameled stainless steel that is fired just like enameled cast iron. After firing, the steel sink is cast in a hard resin about 1/2 to 3/4 inch thick for rigidity and sound deadening.

    I have had 2 such sinks in 2 houses (one black, one white), and they work well and are much lighter than cast iron. My sinks are single bowl and top mount with a common-size rectangular cutout. What I really like is the extra depth and the drain set in the back corner, which clears space in the cabinet below by moving the disposal to the back corner.

    My current white sink is 15 years old and going strong.

  • 10 years ago
    If you're selling, why bother? I seriously doubt the sink will prevent someone from buying the house.
  • 10 years ago

    I would prevent Sophie from buying it;)

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    I had a project where the undermount sinks in a bath vanity looked too small to the client. The stone fabricator offered to come out and cut a larger hole for a larger sink. It's worth a phonecall to a local stone vendor so you can replace with a larger sink. Best of luck!

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Whadda ya think ''resin'' is? It's plastic. And it's why it's called Americrap in the industry. And there is no stainless steel in it. It's ''cast metal''. I. E. Low grade crap steel. It has miles and miles of complaints about it for both sinks and tubs. Just get a coffee, and Google, and read for days.

  • 10 years ago

    Sophie: You said that it was "enamel and plastic". That wasn't true. The enamel is baked on metal just like it is on cast iron. Then the resin (plastic) is molded around it.

    I don't have to read about the sinks on the web. I have lived with 2 Americast sinks in 2 houses for 20 years. And I'd buy one again. In a heartbeat.

  • 9 years ago

    Hi 5mcgraths, what did you end up doing with the sink? I'm curious because I'm having the same problem, trying to replace an Americast where the hole is too small for any other sink (although mine is a top mount).

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    schdoris:


    You may find this useful.

  • 9 years ago
    Mr. Corlett: Thank you for that direction. That would be the ideal solution, but being that we are selling the house, I didn't want to put that much money into it. Thank you for the idea though!
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I hear this all the time. People live with cracks and chips but the minute they're ordered by their realtor, they fix them for a stranger to enjoy. Makes no sense to me.


    You're going to pay to have the sink fixed or replaced. You'll write a check to me now, or you'll write a check to the buyer at closing.

    jareco thanked Joseph Corlett, LLC
  • 8 years ago

    Hello 5 McGraths, I have the same sink and it looks terrible. Did you end up addressing your sink issue and if so, how? Thank you very much!

  • 8 years ago

    As a recent home buyer, I will tell you that the advice some people on here are giving of just covering the worn enamel in the bottom of this sink with paint is underhanded and terrible. Lack of disclosure just pawns the problem off to someone else at quite a considerable expense and pain in the backside. This is a terrible sink and when coupled with custom cut granite countertops as an undermount has left me in quite a predicament. My options are: pay to resurface, resurface myself (temporary fix), or hire someone who might be willing to cut the granite to fit a new option (risk having to replace all granite in kitchen if it cracks due to color match issues).

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Michael:


    Have the cut-out recut, profiled and polished and the sink replaced. Your granite repairs beautifully, believe me. 24th reply down, please. Virtually no risk. $1,500.00 or so, sink and plumbing included.

  • 7 years ago

    Same thing happened to me with American Standard undermount sink. Was a defective piece of garbage sink! Corroded and discolored after just a few months. Had to reglaze sink because otherwise i would have had to replace the whole countertop! They apparently discontinued the sink because of so many complaints!

  • 7 years ago

    Thanks for your comment. I understand. I think we ended up repairing the chip and leaving it as is. I did a pretty good job ab the repair, if I do say so myself! Haha. No more of those sinks for me. The house sold without that being an issue...

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    "Had to reglaze sink because otherwise i would have had to replace the whole countertop!"


    I replace sinks for a living. Countertops do not have to be replaced. Reglazing is a waste of money:



  • 2 years ago

    why did Americast not just stamp out a stainless steel Silouette replacement sink?? seems like that would fix a lot of the issues......

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    THis is a good lesson learned when selling alsomost everyone will want to redo the kitchen

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    This is how you fix this cheaply:


  • 2 years ago

    to: Joseph Corlett, LLC, What sink is that you replaced the Americast with?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Kohler 3821-1-NA.


    Here's the best fix for this sink. No, the stone isn't going to break.





  • 2 years ago

    Thank you so much Joseph. Do you think the Kohler could have been a drop in instead of under Mount?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Raam:


    The Kohler 3821 is a dual-mount sink. It can be undermounted or dropped in.

  • 2 years ago

    Thank you, Joseph. I see you serve in FL, do you know any pros in the Bay Area? What is a good estimate for a job like the pics you have posted above?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    "...do you know any pros in the Bay Area?"


    No, but I'd suggest searching for a fabricator at www.stonefabricatorsalliance.com


    "What is a good estimate for a job like the pics you have posted above?"




    If the sink is replaced without changing the cutout, expect to pay about $1,900.00, sink and plumbing included.




    If the cutout is changed, expect to pay $3,800.00, sink and plumbing included.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks again! Very helpful

  • 2 years ago

    I have been doing some research, I think this sink might be a drop in or undermount fit without much cutting: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Glacier-Bay-Bratten-33-in-Drop-In-50-50-Double-Bowl-18-Gauge-Stainless-Steel-Kitchen-Sink-with-Accessories-VT3322TA0ACC/317041467

    I have overlaid both sinks' profiles in photoshop here and looks like it might be a match. I will collect it from HD near me and give it a try.



  • 2 years ago

    Here is what I did and it worked great! Use a piece of stainless to cover the upper cut out. That Americast sink if the biggest piece of junk out there.



  • 2 years ago

    This may be an option for my discontinued American Standard Americast sink! Who would you contact to replace it and do this type of work? My current countertop is granite.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    What city and state are you in please?

  • 2 years ago

    Jacksonville, Florida

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Call Sherice Blackwell, Office Manager at www.ihatemysink.com please. 941-962-2592. I'd suggest emailing a picture of your sink taken back far enough that she can see all of the cutout and all of the drawer in the front like this:

    Dimensions would help. mynewsink@ihatemysink.com

  • 2 months ago

    I have the same sink but my granite has different holes than these sinks. Can holes be cut out in the Glacier Bay or Kohler sink to match?

  • 2 months ago

    i have the same sink but with different holes in my granite. Can holes be drilled in the replacement sinks to match?

  • PRO
    2 months ago

    "i have the same sink but with different holes in my granite. Can holes be drilled in the replacement sinks to match?"


    Yes.

  • 2 months ago

    Thanks, the plumber should be able to handle that for the install.

  • 2 months ago



  • 2 months ago

    Kohler double sink should fit.

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