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Kitchen reno advice, please?

9 years ago

We are redoing the kitchen in our old farmhouse. I wanted to keep a vintage feel to it. After MUCH gnashing of teeth, I moved away from the antique white/cream of my cabinet colour choice to Soft Fern (Benjamin Moore) with a copper farmhouse sink. I'm a bit befuddled, as some refer to Soft Fern as a yellow green online, while others a gray green. I don't want yellow. Interpretation of this colour would be appreciated?

We have an extra large window over the kitchen sink facing west, and another on the other end facing east. I hope you can tell the general layout by the attached sketches. In the second sketch, where the fridge is placed, we have no cupboards there as it is a dining area (I'm moving the table one end of a large rectangular living room). I THINK the best place for the fridge (see sketch) is there as it frees up space in the U-shaped part of the room, or the "kitchen proper" (where it sits currently). I have had some negative feedback on locating the fridge on the other side of the doorway as some people think it's out of range. Thoughts?


This sketch does not show it, but there will be a small island opposite the sink when the kitchen is done. About 4 foot square I believe.




I am thinking I will use Wilsonart calcutta marble countertops.I will be using the same flooring here as in the living room (which will be done in some shade of complementary gray). I had debated between vinyl plank and hardwood but have decided on hardwood (I think) because I don't really want vinyl in the living room. The kitchen and living room are separated by a double doorway. Because the ceiling (beadboard) will be white, the Soft Fern cabinets will go to the ceiling, and light countertop, the flooring should be darker. Any recommendations on a quality brand and shade -- warm tones for the fern or cool for the gray? I do like the wider style.


ANY input would be appreciated both in layout, cabinet colour or flooring advice!


Thank you.

Comments (12)

  • 9 years ago

    I should clarify as the two sketches separated don't show it but the doorway I refer to is between the fridge in one sketch and the wall where the stove is in the other sketch. Opposite the fridge wall is a pony wall with a staircase upstairs. I will put a small narrow buffet on there or some such.


  • 9 years ago

    I do not want yellow, so that's good advice. I'm after a wood floor with a bit of variation, both to camouflage a busy house and hide what is sure to be dents and scratches with a cat and a dog.

    The only other things I've got going on in the kitchen is the white beadboard ceiling -- walls and trim colour yet to be determined, and there's not a lot of that.

    I want to do the living room in something like a BM Stonington gray.


    My flooring store tells me Kentwood makes good hardwood, and I thought Coal Harbour (bottom photo) was promising, but lesser expensive options are two from Mannington that I like -- Mountain View Hickory Smoke (top photo) or Mayan Pepper (middle photo) which is actually shown against a lighter green, albeit the bathtub.

    I'm going a little nuts, because the paint store lady says I need to pick flooring before I pick a cabinet colour; other people feel it's the other way around ... and now I read the countertop should be picked first because they're the star of the show.


    And here all along I thought it was the cabinets, and everything else came from that!




  • 9 years ago
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    The order in which you pick items doesn't matter, it's completely non-linear. Just gather some samples and put them on a mood board or a bright white surface of some kind, so you can see if you like them. Look at the samples under natural light, and under the type of light you will be using in the finished kitchen.

    Benjamin Moore has some online tools that help with colors, search for Soft Fern and you will get suggestions for similar colors. However, green obviously has some yellow in it, no matter which shade you pick. Do you mean you want a more neutral green, or a more bluish green?

  • 9 years ago

    I had soft fern in a previous house. I'd suggest getting a sample jar and painting some large squares on a couple of walls so you can see how it looks in the changing light.

  • 9 years ago
    Thanks. I was after a green gray and definitely wasn't looking for any overt yellow or blue tones. I have painted swaths of about eight different colours but depending on what it's up against and time of day it seems to look different.
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    Revere Pewter is the first color to mind when you say green-gray. I've read that eastern light adds green and western light adds orange; I think this is worth considering because we painted our previous house a dark green gray which was beautiful on the eastern side especially in the morning, but it looked like a terrible olivey brown on the western (back patio) side in the summer afternoon.

    Rebecca thanked sheloveslayouts
  • 9 years ago

    I haven't seen it in real life, other than a swatch but Sherwin Williams (not sure if that's an option) Sea Salt is a very pale green that is apparently considered a grayish green. The swatch I've seen is very pretty. I agree to paint some samples on the wall to determine how the light will affect it.

    Rebecca thanked mgmum
  • 9 years ago

    I have a big color sheet of Soft Fern, along with several other greens. Soft Fern definitely has blue undertones in my house/lighting. Not yellow at all, and not gray.

    Among the many, many samples I have, Camouflage is similar but more gray, no blue undertone. Urban Nature is a bit darker, and also doesn't have the blue undertone. I don't see yellow undertones in any of the three (Soft Fern, Camouflage, and Urban Nature).

    FWIW, I did as other people suggested and signed up as a designer on the BM site so that I could order larger color sheets (4x8, 5x9). I've ordered a few of each color and taped them up around my kitchen to see them in different light and angles. I've bought a sample can of paint for the final few.

    Rebecca thanked pippiep
  • 9 years ago

    It doesn't look particularly yellow-ish to me. I have Camouflage in my bedroom and I think it's more of a beige-green than gray-green, but it's very chameleon-like and fluid. The important thing for me is I can't discern any blue.

    This link might be helpful for you if you're committed to green: Benjamin Moore greens

    Rebecca thanked Bunny
  • 9 years ago

    That is helpful. I've got paint samples slapped on my old cupboards, on cream colored walls where there are no cupboards (yet) and was starting to panic that Soft Fern looked yellow. I hate myself as I don't want blue either, and just a hint of grey. Thanks, ladies. I think too that if I get cooler tones in flooring that will help too, won't it? Instead of a warm pine, as an example?


  • 9 years ago

    the 3 pics you displayed show how these tones can nicely work.... However, I would be considering what accents I may have already in adjacent spaces, or accents I want to introduce .For example a botanical window curtain/ table runner/ or colorful rug..favorite pottery....all important with this scheme. Intense rasberry, cool aubergine, virbrant greens ...etc .....this third element of a "pop" , to me is important with this palette. If the space is too small for that extra level of detailing, or you don't care for that kind of thing or what you have already won't work with this, then I would probably go with more neutral brown woods or stay with more straightforward whites. The pictures don't display this extra element and altho what is shown works,I would want to be sure that what I like for detail color will stand with this [maybe they were just ads for the flooring or such].....Generally tho, I think several different color schemes layered into this work well, and a couple would be gorgeous.