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difference in growth and bloom also window heat

When a plant is grafted. Do the caudex and the graft grow at the same rate? Does the blooms follow the traits of the graft or the caudex?

Today was 73 outside and the storm coming will be down to 36 at night. My living room is very bright and I thought to put the plants a couple of feet from the large eastern windows. When the sun is out it is intense. My house stayed 72 all night but warmed quickly to 80 when the house is closed up. Direct sun for about 4 hours. I don't want to burn my new plants so I think it is far enough away from the glass. On sunny days i will roll them outside for full spring sun. I think this should be enough sun till I can move them outside for summer. During the winter they will be lighted and warmed by the fish tank that stay's at 83 and light on for 8hrs. I am building a shelf above the fish tank for the extra humidity.

Does this sound like a set up that might work?


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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    My set up is very similar to yours Marica, I'm taking my plants outside during a day and bring them indoor for the night. My house is about 72 at nights, and I kept some of my plants by the west window and some under full spectrum LED light from my salt water fish tank. ( I used to propagate corals) :). My grafted plants by the window looks very happy and about to bloom, but those that were under the light didn't grow much. I'm just happy I didn't kill them over the winter, lol. They are a lot happier now since I started to take them outside. Happy growing!

  • 10 years ago

    I only plan on using the t5 lights in the fish tank as heat during the winter. My house is only 70 heated in the winter, maybe. So if they are dormant that should be fine. I would tent the top of the tank if needed. I cover it on mornings like this to stop algae from the 24' of windows. I have been looking into LED,

    I may have to separate the two posts in my first question. But thanks about the light

  • 10 years ago

    Marica,

    The grafted portion (Scion applied) will produce the same bloom as the mother tree in which is was taken from.

    Best to rub out/off any growth that should try and grow below the graft site.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago

    Is the growth rate change with the drafting of the scion? Or is still determined by below the graft? I realize that the treatment of said plant (water, fert, pot ect) will determine growth also but are the traits for growth in the base or above the graft. Do branches grow like the mother plant in speed and form?

  • 10 years ago

    The growth rate of the scion can vary well be governed by the rate at which the scion would grow on the original tree. In some cases the scion can grow at a much faster rate making for a odd looking union. Vary large branch above the union of root stock branch.

    The majority of the time in my experience with the grafted trees which I have, the growth rate is equal. I have one that the growth rate above the scion is quite a bit quicker, making the branches thicker above the union.

    With seeing this. In a perfect world if the growers of the Adenium grafted stock could take the time to make sure that the growth rate was similar or relatively equal would make be great. This would involve a lot of time and for the percentages of this occurring, it would not be worth the time.

    Not something for us hobbyist growers to worry about much.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago

    I guess I need to reword my question. Maybe I am confusing the issue.

    I plan on taking and changing the shape of the roots/caudex, while grafting branches of double or triple flowers (mostly obesum). I thought maybe the roots/caudex would grow at it's original rate and shape. While the branches would take on the rate of the mother plant. As I am for a small twisted caudex I was thinking the the branch growth may grow at a slightly different rate to allow for the bigger blooms while the roots/caudex grow much slower. I saw the mini's from last year but am waiting to see what another year of your plants bring to the base growth or if they flowered. I would think that grafting to this mini base would be a little off in shape with double or triple flowers while the base remains small. But I have not seen mini's over 7yrs old to judge the size of the base or branches. I want to experiment with different looking plants. I have ordered several 3" and 5" arabacum plants to be able to watch and play with. Never been very good with starting seeds. I am trying!

    Arid lands said to not start out with TSx without experience. So I will wait.

    Am a little confused in the different Aarabacum growth patterns. They sound better to bonsai. so will start with the basic plant. I like the shape of the dormant plant as well as when the plant blooms. Bought a few obesum grafts to try on the arabacum bases.

    I have studied up a lot with being home all the time. Now I need to work on which pots to try in each experiment.

  • 10 years ago

    oh my!! dane your roses are beautiful!