1st plant could be sedeveria or Sedum morganianum 'Harry Butterfield'.

Very compact - where are they kept over winter? Mine is much leggier, I just chopped off few 'arms'.

I agree with Rina, first looked like Sedeveria "Harry Butterfield" that has been well- grown in a lot of sun.

As for the second plant, I have same one, but have been unable to get an ID for it, other than some kind of Echeveria..... Curious to see what responses you get!

Should have sent a better pix hanging next to a burro's tail. the leave are 3 or 4 times bigger. didnt know that it flowered, mine never has. some thing to watch for. Thanks to both of you for a respopnse.

Frank

I still would like to know where is it grown - perhaps greenhouse? Sorry for being so nosy :) But looking at your zone makes me wonder (unless you are in Australia :) - I believe zones are numbered differently?

Look at my plant - it is under lights and not nearly as compact as yours:

I, am also curious, it is so compact! Perhaps it is something else . But the leaves of Harry Butterfield are 3 or 4 times longer than those of Burros tail, as you said

Sorry I didnt respond. The battery in my air card gave up. I live in the Edmonton AB area. No battery was available in ab. Had to order out of prov. with via mail.

Plants are green house grown. Have a 20 by 20 ft area.

Picture of Burro tails