you wont get that far, bed bath and beyond wont sell them anymore, poor quality, scratched, just a mess so pretty but awful. Impulse/pop culture living is distributor, I tried them to get a good set, they sent horribly scratched plates and only give store credit. I am out over 400 dollars and they want pics, the only pics I can send that they accept are too small to see anything so we know what we are dealing with here.