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Maximum yield beefsteak tomato with classic summer field tomato taste?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Hey guys. I just tried my first Cherokee Purple. Pinkish with green cheeks, soft. Tasted kinda mediocre. I'm thinking I may have picked it a week too early. Some people say that CP has mediocre yields. Some say it has high yields. My plant has been topped to about 2 feet single vine and has 4 more medium green tomatoes. I'm not sure if that's a lot or not.

The taste profile I'm going for is like the Ontario summer field tomatoes that are red and vine ripe. My best guess is that they are Beefsteaks but I'm not sure.

FYI. I grow indoors under LED and in 29 gallon containers in pro mix and top dress with slow release fertilizer.

Requirements:

1. field tomato flavour at minimum or better

2. maximum yield

3. early/fast ripening is a plus

4. vigorous (fast to rebound after heavy pruning) is a plus

Anyway I got a mixed pack of seeds off Ebay and was wondering if one of these was your best producer or maybe another variety.

  1. Tomato 'Giant Delicious'- (25+ Seeds) Current World record holder grown by Gordon Graham 1986 in Oklahoma weighing in at 7 Lbs. 12 Oz. which he entered and won the Page Seed Companies $1,000.00 Giant Tomato contest. 77days from transplant.

2. Tomato 'Big Zac' (20+ Seeds) Normally reaches 4 Lbs. but can reach 5-6 Lbs. Developed by Minnie Zaccaria of New Jersey, who has been growing championship Tomatoes for more than 20 years, and who has won the biggest Tomato contest 7 times. Gigantic and very delicious. 80 days from transplant.

3. Tomato 'Giant Belgium' (20+ Seeds) 2-4 lbs. Popular, humongous, deep pink, incredible flavor.

  1. Tomato 'Mortgage Lifter' (20+ Seeds) 2.5 - 4 Lbs. Keeps well, drought tolerant, fruits till frost.

5. Tomato 'Brandywine Pink' (20+ Seeds) 1-2 Lbs. Taste is superb has won numerous taste tests. 85 days from transplant.

  1. Tomato 'Beefsteak' (25+ Seeds) 2+ Lbs. Huge, fragrant a classic delicious red Tomato.
  2. Tomato 'Amana Orange' (20+ Seeds) 2+ Lbs. full flavored, slightly sweet with a hint of tropical fruit, good in hot weather.3 times more vitamin A than red tomatoes.

8. Tomato 'Giant Italian Tree' 5 Seeds

9. Tomato "Omar's Lebanese" 20 Seeds

10.Tomato "Sicilian Saucer" 20 Seeds

  1. Tomato 'Italian Heirloom' 10 Seeds

12. Tomato "Johnson's Monster" 7 Seeds

Ontario field tomatoes.

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2009/08/20090801---Tomatoes-IV.jpg

A yield like this Big Beef density from youtuber mhpgardener would be nice (not sure if it just seems high density because the vines are short from the heat):
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WMl1HBC2INw/maxresdefault.jpg

Comments (15)

  • 10 years ago

    The Ontario field tomatoes taste like vine ripened Big Beef. Juicy, meaty, potentially mealy, sweet and tangy. That much I know. from growing some Big Beef last year outside.


    Eh, because I grow under LED, keeping leaf exposure at around 50,000 LUX is my goal. So any 2nd or 3rd level leaves that don't get side lighting from other containers growing other veggies get pruned off, as I tend to think these are parasitic. Also, as I do grow indoors, it's quite possible I will keep this plant for multiple years and might need to cut it down to a few inches unless I want to do some kind of fancy vine wrapping thing.


    Anybody who has experience forcing a new bottom sucker to grow on a 3 month old bottom-bare vine feel free to chime in.

  • 10 years ago

    You have ripe tomatoes already - in Ontario???? Lucky you!

    I think you need to let your next CP tomato mature a little more before eating it. Most people love the taste. Indian Stripe is a more productive strain.

    Sounds as if what you want is Big Beef F1.

    My complaint about the Brandywines is that they take forever to mature, so I spend all summer waiting for them, and then they seem to rot before ripening. (I liked the Pink best), but I guess you are growing in a greenhouse so perhaps it will be easier for you. I'd grow them all and see which ones taste best!

    Linda

    Yuan Gong Hamilton ON CANADA 6b thanked Labradors
  • 10 years ago

    Assuming, we use Big Beef as a starting point, what variant of that has the biggest yields and best fruit set?

  • 10 years ago

    Actually, the "greenhouse" is the living room lol. No need to worry about heat. 15 amp circuit max is...annoying.

  • 10 years ago

    As far as I know, Big Beef F1 is just Big Beef. No variants. There is an open-pollinated, de-hybridized Big Beef floating around (I think I saw it on Gary Ibsen's site?), but I haven't heard very good things about it.

    Yuan Gong Hamilton ON CANADA 6b thanked gorbelly
  • 10 years ago

    Ha ha! The living room is good! Obviously with sunny windows :-) .

    I heard that there's an OP Big Beef but, from what I read, it's no tastier than Brandywine, but I bet it's more productive!

    Linda

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  • 10 years ago

    Sounds like Big Beef is worth trying! I'll be sure to steer clear of the open pollinated variety, thanks :)


    No, the windows are fail. I have like 14 Mars Hydro "300W" lights.

  • 10 years ago

    Cherokee purple is less than average produce per many reviews. But most agree on good taste. And that is why it is favored by many.


    Sey

    Yuan Gong Hamilton ON CANADA 6b thanked Seysonn_ 8a-NC/HZ-7
  • 10 years ago

    That's good. That means my yields are about normal. This bodes well for Big Beef.

  • 10 years ago

    Steak Sandwich is a good one. The color is a bit more on the pink side. Last year everyone raved how good they were. It was a pretty fast grower, and was the first ripe large tomato of the year last year. Expect sizes from one to two pounds. One plant yielded over 35 pounds of tomatoes.

    Yuan Gong Hamilton ON CANADA 6b thanked centexan254 zone 8 Temple, Tx
  • 10 years ago

    I assume you understand that given the unusual and artificial indoor growing methods you are using that the flavor and productivity of any variety will be affected and in most cases reduced?

    Just as one cannot expect field-grown flavor from greenhouse grown tomatoes, one cannot expect nearly the same levels of production from container grown plants. And your methods of leaf reduction, spectrum alteration, and containerized soil moisture control would have even more effects.

    As someone who does all three - GH, container, and field growing - I learned years ago that you have to learn to keep the expectations in line with the methodology regardless of the variety used.

    Dave

  • 10 years ago

    Naturally. I wish I had waited an extra week or so with the Cherokee Purple so I could know more definitively how similar the two are.

  • 10 years ago

    Yuan Gong can you send me a private message please:-)

  • 10 years ago

    whoa. Hammerton :)

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