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Need help with ID

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Hi, I bought this plant 2 years ago as Hoya Merrillii. It has never bloomed for me, so that won't help. I grew it in west sun but the leaves always grew in a dark green. NEVER a hint of red tinge on the leaves, even in the brutal Florida sun. This year, I grew it in the back and it only receives dappled direct sun, the leaves are still dark green but have a wet sheen when new. These leaves are like daggers and are growing over 7" long.


These new leaves are still pliable and over 8" long. The sheen looks like wet paint. This pair formed in less than a week.


These leaves were grown in direct west noon to 6pm sunshine. Never any hint of red when they were growing.


The whole plant. I dragged it into the sun to get a good photo, it made the leaves look much lighter green than they are. It is sitting on top of a moonshadow, sharing a plant stand.

Any Ideas ? I first thought it might be Clandestina, then I saw a pic of Aurora's Polystacha on another thread and that looked closer to mine. Then I read PS-TheHoyan Vol 13, #1 and found out there are at least 4 of them that look alike when not in bloom.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Marco

Comments (24)

  • 10 years ago

    Hoya polystachya, tjadsmalangensis, macrophylla (non variegated or albomarginata...just the plain jane macro), or clandestina. Until it blooms, it may be next to impossible to know for sure, as all thses have similar leaves. Definitely not merrillii!

    marco thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago

    You could probably rule out tjadsmalangensis and macrophylla, if the leaves don't redden in high light...still looking up more info.

    marco thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago

    Nevermind, lol. You can rule out tjadsmalangensis, but macrophylla is a stable green UNLESS it is variegated or albomarginata. New leaves may be reddish.

    marco thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    EPC 452 polystachya (photo courtesy of epiphytica.com):


    marco thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago

    Thank you so far, Aurora ! The closest foliage match I ever could make using the images on Google was the Macrophylla with the yellow edge, but without the yellow. That one has pretty much the exact same veinage as mine.

    Thanks, Marco

  • 10 years ago

    This is my new Hoya Merrillii. The leaves are dark glossy green but no where near the length of yours. I purchased it from Gardinos that grows it outside in FL.

    marco thanked Monica bf N. Carolina zone 7B
  • 10 years ago

    Could it be Hoya rigida? It looks similar to mine...

    marco thanked puglvr1
  • 10 years ago

    Pug, you have an EXCELLENT point. It does look like a couple of my rigidas, as well!

    marco thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago

    I'm not sure, Pug. This group they're in all look so similar. The vein pattern is exactly like Aurora's two pics. All I know is that it won't blush in direct sunlight. It tried to make 3 peduncles on the end of 2 barren vines early this spring and they were a pinkish/red color. Then it got cold for 4 nights and they turned solid and died.

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    Its definitely similar so its a pretty good guess,lol...

    marco thanked puglvr1
  • 10 years ago

    I am easy to please, Pug, lol. The leaves are rigid, that's for sure ! The Google images look similar but some had leaves that are wider in the middle (like Monicas Merrillii) or red blush. Mine are just shaped like daggers. Watch the silly thing make a bloom that is nothing like we are thinking, wouldn't that be a hoot ! My thanks for everyone of you and your effort to help me ID this one. I appreciate it greatly !

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    Monica, that Merrillii of yours from Gardino's is beautiful !

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    It could be a reverted macrophylla albomarginata...mine reverts occasionally. Waiting for this one to flower is going to be a challenge for my patience, lol!

    marco thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    And I thought the few Pubicaylx's that I have are confusing. I will bring it back into the front, nearer the sun and see if it will bloom. Thank you aurora ! I appreciate your sleuthing ! I will try to assist you by getting this mystery to flower.

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Marco. I was very pleased with my last order from Gardinos.

    marco thanked Monica bf N. Carolina zone 7B
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Yes Monica, they sure are great people. You have gotten some really beautiful plants from them. Did your Merrillii come with any reddish leaves or was it all green ? I got an Iligiorum from them last November and it's growing wild.

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    Gardino is great, I've gotten several of my Hoyas from them...

    Merrilli is one of theml purchased 2011 :o)

    marco thanked puglvr1
  • 10 years ago

    Nice one Pug. It was a picture like this that had me question my plant's ID. I saw the beautiful red tips and went , WOW ! mine don't do that ! That's when I started digging into my plants true ID. Has it bloomed for you ?

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Marco, my plant is a beautiful, dark and glossy green one. I love it! Now if it turns a reddish color like Pug's I may have to carry it around with me because I wouldn't be able to stop looking at. lol

    Maybe they need to mature more before they take on the red tones? Not sure. I currently have it in a north/east window.

    marco thanked Monica bf N. Carolina zone 7B
  • 10 years ago

    I'll throw out yet another suggestion... looks close to aldrichii as well...

    Clandestna's leaves become very succulent as they age. Are the old leaves very thick?

    Denise in Omaha

    marco thanked Denise
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    No Denise, they all are the same thickness, thinner than the leaves on the Nicholsoniae I got from you. They are stiff as a board once the are fully mature.

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    I'm still inclined to say polystachya...but, until it blooms, it will remain a mystery!

    marco thanked aurorawa
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    aurora, I am leaning in that direction as well. The leaf vein pattern and texture are identical. I have got to get this sucker to bloom ! Thanks for all the work trying to solve this for me. I appreciate everyone's input.

    Marco

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