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Anyone growing Massad roses?

10 years ago

I know Massad roses aren't really old , But they look like antiques and are very beautiful. Id like to plant a rose by him, however my as my experience with david austin is very controversial I decided to be more careful about what I plant.

Could you recommend a rose that can tolerate extreme heat in summer as well as drought? I of course water them but just in case. We rarely get fungal diseases here so its rarely a problem but most of my DA roses had performance issues . They hardly bloom when it gets hot and if they do some of have very miniature blooms or burn and fall apart very fast, which wouldn't have been a problem had they not grown so huge . I'd like to plant a rose that would be a good performer in summer and would also tolerate cold in winter.

Thank you for your attention

Comments (14)

  • 10 years ago

    You mean the Generosas?
    I have grown quite a few of them, though it's been a while. Most of them were abject failures in my SoCal coastal garden, where real heat was quite rare, and conditions were alkaline.

    You don't say where you are located, or provide much detail as to what your conditions are -- so I can only tell you what happened HERE.

    The ONLY one of them that was successful here was 'Paul Bocuse'.

    As bad as the others were (indifferent growth, scanty bloom) this one rose has been a magnificent garden rose here. Blooms are large, with long stems, and last for several days on the bush. Habit is fairly low (perhaps 3.5 ft.) and slightly spreading. Bloom is generous. Stems are long enough for cutting, without being awkward.

    Blackspot is rarely an issue here. Mildew and rust are our big problems. We see none of that, on this rose.

    We get very little winter -- most years, no chill hours. Our climate was very mild until the past handful of years, when heat began to increase, and it hit 120 last year, on the hillside where 'Paul Bocuse' grows.

    qatie thanked jerijen
  • 10 years ago

    Sonia Rykiel does very well here. Lot of fragrant blooms.

    qatie thanked suebelle_neworleans
  • 10 years ago

    I figured Sonia Rykiel was good SOMEWHERE. She was an abject failure here. :-(

  • 10 years ago

    SueBelle, what a beautiful arrangement!

  • 10 years ago

    jerijen thank you so much for your answer . YES i meant generosas . Paul Bocuse seems like a good choice for the first try.And I like how it's more desease resistant then some of other generosas. Your rose is so beautiful . Thank you for the picture .

    Soil over here is clay, my roses seem to like it . In my experience german roses were easiest to grow so most of my roses are german . That is why I was so disappointed with some of the Austins . I must say though golden celebration , jubilee celebration. Scepter d'isle Munstead Wood and Spirit of freedom seem to thrive here. Abraham darby is good but in terms of shape and performance I find german Chippendale better.

    I'll order Paul Bocude as everyone seems to find it good. suebelle_neworleans Your flowers are sooo beautiful. I must admit that I've always wanted to plant Sonia Rykiel, but reviews about that particular rose have always been so contoverisal. Your Picture made me want it again :D so I guess I'll have to try it .

    Do you know anything about Chapeau de Mireille? My mother wants me to plant her, I'm not sure about her though..

  • 10 years ago

    Where are you, climate, country, qatie as far as advice goes?

  • 10 years ago
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    Country is Georgia . Climate well it's very hot in summer it can easily reach 40C (104F) and more . Winters are cold we get snow and temperature can fall below Zero. Soil in the part of the country where I grow my roses is different variations of Clay , and the climate is dry. This year though it's been raining a lot ... I googled if it was possible to tell which climate Zone would be closest to my country's but found the Information about my country's climate not to be accurate so gave up. Georgia is located in eastern Europe .. Kind of...

  • 10 years ago
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    I've been to Georgia (the country) and I know that the climate in that small country is extremely variable from place to place, depending on proximity to the Black Sea or to the Caucasus mountains, altitude and general geography which is extremely varied in this rugged country. While the climate in the interior can be pretty harsh continental, the climate in a narrow zone by the sea can be almost subtropical. So your actual climate will be dependent on where in Georgia you are located. If you are in the Tsbilisi area then your climate should be a dry continental, about zone 7 in terms of winter coldnes. Let me say that I have found your historic country extremely interesting and the people very hospitable. I wish I could visit the country again and take the time to travel around.

  • 10 years ago

    Wow I've never expected to meet someone who has been in Georgia .. It's great that you liked it. I wish I could travel to Greece as well You are right about climate . I have my roses in eastern part of the country which makes my life much easier , as west in some parts is too humid. Buying roses that aren't from Germany is bit hard here though... as most Nurseries sell German Roses or Austins

  • 10 years ago
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    Well, the Germans, let's see, yes I know what you mean.. Nevertheless you may be able to mail order bare root roses from the EU as long as you can use a credit card for international payments.

  • 10 years ago

    Mind -- I am in Southern California -- and our climate is nothing like that of Georgia. Well, for that matter, neither is our soil or water!

    That's why I so rarely recommend anything for gardens that are outta my area. If they're great here, they could be drech elsewhere.


  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Diablesse de mers (my favorite--it smells lovely and blooms into autumn!)


  • 2 years ago

    I hope nikthe greek is still out there somewhere. I miss him.