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Black tip? No new leaf growth. Please help!

10 years ago

This is my 4th year with my plumerias. I have had great success since they were cuttings. Last year I got flowers for the first time on both of them! This year one is thriving, while the other has been stagnant for weeks.


I had leaf growth start, but all of the baby leaves had turned black/brown and fell off. I'm concerned that I now have black tip, which I know nothing about and have started research. Can you confirm this is black tip and help me get started fixing it if it is?

Comments (35)

  • 10 years ago

    This is my other plant, they have been side by side.

  • 10 years ago

    It's a little early to diagnose black tip, I think. If that blackness spreads, then yes. Otherwise it could just be new little leaves turning black because the weather and soil has not been warm enough. Has it been kept warm this spring or outdoors in weeks and weeks of cold and wet weather? Did you just now set it out? Where do you live? Give a little more history about how you've been treating the plant and its environment.

  • 10 years ago

    Has it been kept warm this spring or outdoors in weeks and weeks of cold and wet weather?

    I did allow them to spend one night below freezing about 5-6 weeks ago, other than that they havent been out under 40°.

    Did you just now set it out? Where do you live?

    They have been out now for that 5-6 week period. I am in Charlotte, NC. I get about 8-10 hours of sun on them every day. I have not been as consistent with watching water intake as I should be. I moved them out of the open sky under my porch about 2 weeks ago to get them water rationed.

    Give a little more history about how you've been treating the plant and its environment.


    I have them in the same soil since I transplanted the cuttings. 50% perlite with regular old miracle grow garden soil. (I'm sure this is due for a refresh, advice on what to put them in and what size container?) I was able to get both of them to bloom last year (year 3 from cuttings that a friend brought from Hawaii). I just moved so I'm still playing with finding the right spot around the yard for them.

  • 10 years ago

    bump

  • 10 years ago

    Well, that was a mighty cold temp for them in the spring. But I have some that are not leafed out yet. Hopefully yours will get going soon. I wouldn't worry about it -- and there's really nothing you can do at this point anyway! Just don't water it much at all until you see some new leaf action.

  • 10 years ago

    She's pretty water logged at the moment. I have been watching the water intake and it seems that it's time for a soil refresh. Would now be an ok time to transplant? Should I go bigger pots since I'm potentially disturbing it's home?

  • 10 years ago

    Well, water logged is not good. Can you keep it in the warm sun? Gently dig up soil so that it dries faster. What are your temps likenow?

  • 10 years ago
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    I'm starting to stay steady 80's well up into 90+ over the next few weeks, and the humidity will roll in next month sometime. I do have a need to transplant both of them, was going to shoot for one more year. I have read about pulling it out and laying it on paper to dry the ball out some. They both seem to be holding water more than they did last year.

  • 10 years ago

    I'm starting to see leaf buds again. Some are turning brown once they reach a little less than half an inch long. I also have the black spreading on one of the tips and it is mushy.


  • 10 years ago

    I couldn't get a great photo, but the tip from the previous post that was black is now off. I was able to pull gently and it peeled right off like a scab.

  • 10 years ago

    Yes, it got black tip on one. It is usually self-limiting like yours has been. The other tips look like they are responding to the warm weather and beginning to grow again.

    It is likely the cold temperatures it experienced in the spring contributed to black tip. Rule of thumb is not to put plants out until night time temps are reliably 55 degrees or above, especially during wet periods.

  • 10 years ago

    Need some help with my Plumeria. Any advice is greatly appreciated! My Plumeria is growing crooked in the pot anyone have any suggestions on how to fix that? Also does this inflo look ok? I had to actually cut off some black rot last night all the way down to the joint as you can see in the bottom picture. I do have leaves on the 2 stems to the right in the bottom picture :)

    Thanks in advance!

  • 10 years ago
    I am assuming that growth tip is dead. Will it now branch out from that point? I would like to a make it a cutting but I don't think she's long enough.
  • 10 years ago
    outdoorgirl, you may want to start a new thread for more people to see it.
  • 10 years ago

    time to start cutting back?

  • 10 years ago

    Update

    She seems to be healthy from the branches down from what I can tell. Nice and firm, smooth with no wrinkles, no rot at the surface. The growth tips in general are not well this year. I have the one that turned black and fell off, and now the adjacent tips in that cluster are turning from their bright healthy green to a redish green dark color. Every baby leaf I get turns black and falls off at first growth.

    She is now in full sun ~7 hours in the afternoon. I have not watered at all.

    Her sister is doing just fine and leafing out well.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated.


  • 10 years ago

    Patience. You might check just below the soil line to make sure there was no rot around the stem. Should be firm and 'bark' layer should not be sloughing off. That happened to some of mine one year when I overwatered before they leafed out.

  • 10 years ago

    Looks good below the soil line from what I can tell. Firm, sturdy, no peeling.

  • 10 years ago

    Check roots.

  • 10 years ago

    How so? Should I go ahead and transplant, fresh soil, trim roots, bigger pot?

  • 10 years ago

    Pot looks fine, just check for rot. If the soil smells change it out. Make sure you add perlite. Take pictures of the root.

  • 10 years ago
    It has been on the same pot and soil since I rooted it 4 years ago. probably due for a change anyway. I think it was all miracle gro garden soil too. (I didn't know back then!)
  • 10 years ago

    I'd just leave it alone. Don't mess with it anymore.

  • 10 years ago

    She's looking worse today. Black tip is spreading. Looks like it's showing on other tips as well.

  • 10 years ago

    I finall found this thread. I wanted to post some black tips that i left alone and as it got warmer they got nice new foliage

  • 10 years ago

    5 of 6 tips are leafing out on her sister plant. I have 1 tip that looks rough.

  • 10 years ago

    Surprise, I just noticed this on her as well

    That seems early to me!

  • 10 years ago

    Photos of each growth tip. The first two are the most healthy but seem to be turning. The last is the original tip that peeled off. Peeled off a second time.

    She's ill, what do I do next?

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    10 years ago

    Wait and observe is the best advice. You can if you want spray an anti fungal on the plant to reduce the possibility of fungus. I tend to think its no one thing and you will just have to let the tips scab up and regenerate. They are already swelling at the leaf nodes so that's a good sign. Right now without leaves it probably needs less water than its getting so you could reduce watering

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I'm pretty Excited to see this! A lot has changed from the previous picture!! :)

    Now:

    Before:

  • 10 years ago

    3 tips have peeled off now. Looks like a 4th will in a few days. I do see signs of life that could turn into a result similar to outdoorgirl's last post. I have not watered at all. Baby leaves on other tips are still falling off at first growth. It's been hot and humid here for a month now with lows in the mid/upper 70s. Her sister is doing amazing with an inflo about 1.5 inches long and healthy leaves. The one black tip she has looks to be containing itself and hardening over.

    Her sister:

    this growth tip never turned the dark redish color like the tips on the other plant

    So frustrating to have two plumies going I'm opposite directions! Maybe it's just time for a third :)

  • 10 years ago

    The one that you're having trouble with is just because of you letting it freeze, as long as you keep it slightly moist and give it sun it should be fine, just be careful with it, a plumeria cannot handle freezing temps very well so the plant looks like its still recovering. good luck with it!

    Chris Koster thanked Dawson North TX (z8a/7b)
  • 10 years ago

    Update:

    She is trying hard to bounce back but I'm only seeing life in one growth tip. Watering sparingly, lots of hot sun.

    It looks like one of the leaf nodes is staying healthy, while the other two are browning.

  • 10 years ago

    Meanwhile...

    Her sister is doing just fine :) (2nd year in a row with buds!)

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