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Aeration porosity question

10 years ago

Hi Al,

First, many thanks for all container soil science, most valuable info on this planet for container gardeners !

2 questions : 1) checked my 511 mix porosity and water retention-- 67% total porosity, 46% air porosity , no pwt leaves 21% water retention . Is that still ok or do I need to increase retention?

2) not soil related -- my young jasmine sambac plants in above mix, are making buds but all new young leaves turning brown on the same stalk. Old leaves fine. One just doesnt want to start growth. - I have spent hours on the Web and these forums, can't find an answer . I thought , if anyone can help me, it will be you.

They are in an unheated sunroom , in Oregon .

Eagerly awaiting answers,

Thanks a bunch,

Manisha,


Comments (3)

  • 10 years ago

    I only just opened your message. Sorry for not being able to get to it sooner.

    I would want my medium to have >60% total porosity, >30% moisture retention at container capacity, and air porosity @ container capacity 20% or more.

    J sambac doesn't like the heat. Ideally it would be grown where it's in the very low 70s by day and 10* cooler at night. It also likes some humidity, and good air movement which helps to keep leaf temps down.

    It's just one branch with a foliage problem? Picture?

    Al


  • 10 years ago

    Thank you so much Al. Sorry , I got too busy at work, didn't see your response . So. 1) i need to increase retention , I wonder if I could add turface for that.

    Strange you say that sambacs like it cooler. We had some unusually high temps like high 80s, and my sambac esp moo bloomed so much . Grand duke did some but gd supreme just doesn't open fully. As soon as we cooled again , all flowers are small, none of GDS even attempting to open . I feel they need more food and bigger pot but the plants are relatively new and small except for a few 3 G ones.

    I have a humidifier running and a fan since march.

    2) Re the plant with no growth, it is a GD Once it got warmer and I started humidifier, it started to sprout green buds from main stem , I pruned off the rest. But they have remained green right in the center. Outside of those is turning brownish, scaly. I will try take a pic but they are so small, may be difficult to see. Once it started sprouting, i gave a weak FP, seemed very dry. Right after I did that, this browning started and I am afraid to water at all.

    I am wondering if this be a good one to try with gritty mix ? I will try pics and post tomorrow. I used to live in Eagle Idaho , had big sambacs in pots . Even my holy basil plants got to 4 ft high in pots and lived 4-5 yrs. Winters were hard .no unheated sun room there but a heated room with lots of windows. And there they grew in MG soil. Since I moved to oregon, have lost them every year . So joined this forum , learnt about right soils . Got lights for winters , covered half a southeast deck with glass ... still ...

    Thanks you so much again .

    Look forward to your response.

    God bless you Al ! I call you a Garden Angel :-)


    Manisha



  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I just cut more of that stem down to try show the green cambium. Think u can see green buds if you can enlarge pic. This is the one not wanting to grow

    this is what I mean by buds but leaves dying
    maybe this shows better.

    I don't know if these make sense.

    Also Al, you suggest to use weak fertilizer but my gardenias certainly seem to lack nitrogen with all bottom leaves turning yellow after transplant . Like below

    Any suggestions for any of them? Btw, the gardenias were bought from home depot and are like usual many stems in a pot. So I transplanted into 511 bigger pot after they were done blooming . It was just a mat of root mass, couldn't separate, made deep sits though I tried to price apart.

    Thanks for your help again . Sorry long post :-(

    Manisha

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