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Birch Ply Kitchen: treating the wood

10 years ago

Hi Houzzers. I am nearly finished my house renovation project and I need to treat the birch ply wood units quite urgently as it is getting damaged (have not had time to do this before moving in with toddler! EEK!)
I bought Wood Lye (white - Woca) as I saw a similar kitchen on Houzz that used wood lye to bleach the wood. I really want to keep it as light and natural as possible and have heard that different lacquer / varnishes will stain and discolour the wood. Want to avoid a yellowed birch ply kitchen.
Total novice here so nervous about doing this.
I am guessing I need to:
clean and lightly sand any patches on the wood that are stained (i.e. the lovely handprint of my son)
Rub or brush the wood lye over all the wood
Not sure how long I leave this / how much to use / how to apply
Do I need to reapply?
My question is - do I use oil lacquer or a water based one? Clear varnish?
Are there any particular kinds I can use to avoid yellowing?
Any advice or help appreciated.

Comments (18)

  • 10 years ago

    Lye is caustic. That should never ever be used in anything but a workshop, with safety measures on you, and running water and vinegar nearby. Chemical burns can result.

    The cabinets should have been finished before being hung. The boxes should have been finished before being constructed even. You need a professional with a spray gun and professional grade products. It would be best to uninstall the units and spray them in a clean room.

  • 10 years ago
    And any tips on the lacquer or varnish to use?
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    From reading your dilemma, you are not ready to take on this project.

    Suggest hiring a pro to complete the work.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    I agree get a pro NOW before you do some real damage.

  • 10 years ago
    Money is the thing. The guy who made the kitchen for me is a carpenter but has never done a kitchen like this out of birch ply. The kitchen had to go in prior to move in date and so we just decided to get him to finish it now as were under pressure with money and moving out of rented before starting mortgage in new. From reading the site of the people who made the reference kitchen we used this sounded a lot more straight forward than it is! They told me they just rubbed the wood lye on with a rag (protective glasses and gloves obviously) and let it dry. From looking online then the option is to use water based Eco lacquer I believe? Others using oil varnish mention it yellows and I really want to avoid that. One option is to get him to do it for my over a weekend when we are not home. The unit is 4 x floating shelves and 4 x deep drawers plus a casing for the boiler. Other option is remove the drawers and shelves and he takes them to the workshop to do.
  • 10 years ago
    Really my question is about preventing the wood from yellowing and what to use on it. Wood lye is what was used on the reference kitchen. I'm concerned about the lacquer or varnish option yellowing the birch. So if anyone can advise on those points, the carpenter and my partner (who is a decorator) are going to do the application of the lye and varnish. Just don't want to destroy the wood or ruin the finished effect I am looking for.
  • 10 years ago

    Water based polyurethane is much less prone to yellowing. I am not familiar with the process you are using, so I don't know if it is compatible. Polyurethane can be deteriorated from underneath if the wood has non-compatible chemicals in it. For example, if wood stripper is not completely neutralized by mineral spirits, it can ruin the new poly on a refinished piece. If the process you are using leaves the wood neutral - not acidic or basic and is compatible, water based polyurethane is a finish that will have less yellowing.

  • 10 years ago

    You can pay a pro now or pay a hell of a lot more after you screw it up (and it can't be fixed), your choice.........................

  • 10 years ago

    I hear ya. As mentioned, my partner is a painter/decorator. But neither he, nor the carpenter have worked with this wood to achieve this raw finish that I want. I'll go back to the reference kitchen guys and ask them what finish to use over the lye :)

  • 10 years ago

    Lye WILL burn holes in your skin. It MUST be neutralized before anything can go over it as a protective finish. That may end up warping the wood.

    This is so not a process for an amateur designer and amateur carpenter.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Please contact me. (800) 242-8160, M-F, 9-4pm EST. I can provide application instructions and offer suggestions on what to use as the finish.- Jennifer Sanderson

  • 10 years ago
    Great customer-focused approach...I'm based in Ireland do you have a local number? Or UK? Otherwise email is excellent as it is very costly to call.
  • PRO
    10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    My email is jennifers@wocausa.com

    Email me and I can send you instructions and the # for WOCA UK

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Email for WOCA UK, pha@woodcare.com

    See link for WOCA Wood Lye instructions. Because this is not a flooring application, denib with a green pad (cut to fit) attached to an orbit sander. Finish with a WOCA penetrating oil or waterbased poly. WOCA Wood Lye Instructions


  • 10 years ago
    Thanks for the useful information!
  • 7 years ago

    I know its been almost three years, but I am really curious how the Woca product worked on your cabinetry. Please update if you have a chance. Thanks!

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