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Could-be noisette, in hot pink (?)

10 years ago

Hi, all! This grows in a local park, kinda big, 3 meters tall, maybe. It gets shade in the afternoons. I have no idea of how old it could be.

If I recall correctly, it is scented, but lightly, not like anything in particular that I could tell.

Hope you can appreciate the bristles, there, by the left of the pic, also on the next one.

Buds, notice the very elongated leaves, too.

I was pretty amused by the foliage, actually, had it not been for the flowers I would've thought it was a very bushy peach from a distance.

Makes hips VERY easily, had a lot of them, they're orange. You can see another one getting kinda wrinkly by the background, it is a darker shade of orange, but orange nonetheless.

A less ripe one, sorry that it is out of focus, I tried really hard to get a good pic but my camera wasn't having it. The shape is pretty unusual i think, they're like teeny kiwifruits, so you get the idea.

Another bloom pic, they have a pretty romantic feel to them. Also check the fine, uniform veining, it seems to come on with age. Around the flowers the canes are mostly smooth, farther away quite bristly, but not exaggeratedly so. they seemed uniform in shape.

Hope you can help and thanks for taking a look!

Comments (8)

  • 10 years ago

    It certainly could be a Noisette; there were several varieties of cherry-red Noisettes once upon a time. The most well-known Noisette of that color in commerce now is probably 'Fellemberg'; here are photos at HMF. I think there more than one rose is sold under that name, since the photos don't all seem to show the same rose.

    The flowers on "your" rose look similar to some of the photos of 'Fellemberg' at HMF, but the long, slender buds with leafy sepals don't match.

    It might also be a China Rose or Tea or Tea-polyantha...?

    Hopefully, someone else will have a better idea of the rose ID, but I also wonder if you could contact someone in charge of park plantings at that park? I once was able to get a rose ID'd by e-mailing a couple of photos I'd taken of an unlabeled rose growing in a city park to someone who worked for the city parks system.

    Whatever it is, I like it very much; I hope you can find out its name, but it's still a great-looking rose without an ID.

    Good luck,

    Virginia

  • 10 years ago
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    A couple of possibilities that might be worth looking up (eg on HMF) would be Old Blush and Climbing Pinkie, even if only to eliminate them. This is just off the top of my head, and could be way off.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Virginia, the flowers on Fellemberg are nearly identical, but that's about it, I think.

    I think the most remarkable feature this rose has in order to be IDed is its foliage, but HMF doesn't seem to have an "elongated/oblong" option to filter. a google search turned out "climbing rouletti". it looks somewhat similar, but it is immense, I don't know if this can get that large. I agree it could very well be a China or something else. As for asking I don't think it would be of much effect here, but I could try.

    Comtesse, Old blush looks a lot like it, the blooms, calyxes, hips, thorns, seem identical. But I'm not sure about the foliage, and the sepals are short. If you look on the last picture, there's a bud with short sepals there, but most of them had long, wispy ones. I'm not sure how that works. Cl. Pinkie it is not.

    I forgot to mention! I took two cuttings of it and both struck! They were pretty fast, about two weeks, and with looots of roots. Maybe that is a clue? Wasn't old blush used as stock for some time way back?

  • 10 years ago

    Old Blush does sometimes show leafy sepals, but I haven't seen any on it as long as in your pictures. You're right, those leaves are remarkable - so long and elegant; very attractive. I'm glad you were able to strike some cuttings from it. I don't recall hearing of OB being used as a rootstock, but that certainly doesn't mean it didn't happen! It will be interesting to know whether there is good repeat bloom on the original and/or your cuttings; as you may be aware, continuity and a long blooming season is a particular feature of OB. (Could this be a sport, perhaps?)

    Sorry I can't be more help. Posting direct to the ARF may yield more answers.

  • 9 years ago

    I went back, the scent is citrus-like. The older cuttings died, but I struck new ones, like I said, I'm surprised at how quick it is at rooting.

  • 9 years ago

    Sorry, I only just saw this. Could that scent conceivably be alternatively described as sweet-pea like?

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Comtesse, don't apologize! There's no rush. Thanks a lot for the interest!

    I've never had the chance to smell a sweet pea bloom, but reading some descriptions online I found "sweet, clean, honey-like, clover, slight orange blossom and jasmine overtones". it sounds about right. So yes.

    Do you have an idea then?