I'm sort of 1/2 way there with adeniums...I can't turn down mixed adenium seeds! There's a little girl inside me that loves surprises! Once I know what I have I will begin weeding them out.

I have only planted a few plumeria seeds and will only keep one of each variety. So far I have 9 varieties, enough for a tantalizing garden.

I love to grow, so am enjoying the experience. Any plants i don't need will become giveaways for neighbors, friends, family. Everyone loves receiving new plants, especially with beautiful flowers & fragrance...and I love bringing a smile to someone's face.

Enjoy your surprise plumie garden! Please share when they're in bloom.

Send it to me I'll take care of them for you

Latinlady, yep I have 45 adenium seedlings. And over a 100 cactus seedlings. I do have a problem. But the good thing about the adeniums and cactus areally that they don't need a bunch of soil or space.

The other day I bought some fertilizer for my plumeria. The lady at the check stand and I got to talking about plumeria. She said she planted 200 seeds and almost all of them bloomed. I feel for her. I have spent a lot of money on potting soil, pots, and perlite.

But yeah, I can't wait till they start blooming.

Update! I'm so tired. I transplanted all but 13 of them into 3, and 5 gallon pot. I'll get the rest in the morning. I'm really gonna hate when winter gets here!

I only got one to germinate out of my first 6 seeds....17%? Still waiting for the seed leaves to emerge, seems like growth has stalled :(

That's quite an adenium garden you have there. They look great. I feel for you ... Believe me! Have some tea and rest!

First time, over-zealous grower here. I currently have 83 seedlings, 7 months & under, plus 5 cuttings from a 15+ year old. I've already given away a few plants & seeds. It's an all day mess when I have to pot up. But it's been so therapeudic I just may do it again in a year!

I have seed from five different mixed seed batches and ten different same seed batches. Even with the same seed batches, because seeds carry individual genetics, I have no idea what to expect. It's thrilling to know the older ones may begin putting on a show in the next few months. Thankfully, I have the weather for that.

My problem now is I want to keep everything I have at least until they've bloomed twice. This way, I'll see what the true flower will be and how the caudex develops. Then I will definitely begin to weed them out by caudex & bloom.

The volume of substrate material is definitely a major concern.

Atascabaman, how long has it been since you planted your seeds? Did you 'surface sow,' meaning lay them on top of the soil and just barely cover them? Adenium seeds cannot be buried. Are you providing them with bottom heat, sun warmth, and keeping moist (not soggy)?

Latin lady, they are plumeria. But, I do have 45 adeniums I grew from seeds. I am grateful that my wife is very patient.

Atascabaman maybe your seeds were damaged? I have had free seeds sent to me twice and I don't know what usps does to them but I'm pretty sure it involves a jackhammer. Only able to get 3 out of 40 seeds to grow.

LatinLady, mine were plumeria. I got them (Siam Lavender) from Brad's. I used the damp paper towel in a ziploc method, only one of the seeds "plumped up".

Update, some of them bloomed this year.

This one I call lilly.

Plain white with pointy pedals

Rounded pink

Thin and long pink

I have another I call Apple cinnamon. It looks like a slice of an apple, and smells like cinnamon. But for some reason I don't have a pic. These guys have yet to bloom.

Lovely flowers! What fun you are having!! (Someone stop me before I become saplumeria!)

I can't find many seeds. Nice plants!

Wispymistyteacup, I bought 100 on eBay. If I had to do it over again I would plant no more then 25. It is a lot of work maintaining 100.

I did find a seed pod on my favorite plumeria.

Nice. Now you will have about 40 more seeds. Seedlings make good root stock for grafting if you wanted to learn and develop that skill. IMO anyone who wants seedlings for the purpose of finding a hidden jewel needs to have some open space to play the odds and plenty of time/patience. Of course there is always the chance that 1 in out 100 just so happens to be the the one seedling you kept.

The first kms2, we were looking at houses, and we actually walked away from a good deal because the back yard didn't have enough shade. I didn't want to risk burning any of my plumeria. True story. My wife thinks I'm an idiot.

Also do you graft?

Do plumeria leaves burn? I have mine in full zone 13 red hot tropical sun, on the equator, and they are fine.

Hi saplumeria do you remember what seller you bought your seeds from? I'm looking for some for grafting practice and just for fun.

drago1976 I think if you post a "Would anyone happen to have seeds for postage?" thread, you just may get a positive response. There are many very generous people on this site who are all too happy to share their seeds with fellow enthusiasts. There is nothing better than fresh from the pod seeds from home gardeners.

Maria Elena

Drago1976 you can ask members for seeds but if they are shipped in envelopes they tend to get damaged.

adeniumcenter on eBay is where I got mine from. I trust them. Plus you will get a wide range of different seeds. Germination rate was over 90%.

Latinlady, what temp? Some of mine do, some don't. Lately it's been 100+ here in Texas, so I moved them all out of direct sunlight.

The first kms2, you are in SanAntonio, correct? I soak mime once a week. I'm not sure if it's because they are fairly young plants that some can t tolerate the Sun very well. My Devine, and rainbow-colored Noid stay in the Sun all summer with no problems.

Our daytime temps are currently in the low 90s with a real feel of +10 degrees and humidity around 86% ... the sun is very hot here. We are on the equator.

I am just outside of San Antonio. Maybe you can experiment with a couple of low value seedlings. Assuming they are in a 3 to 5 gal container which gives enough soil...Transition them into full sun and water daily or at least every other day. Check the results. I think you may have some light burn initially as the plant adjusts but it will then stabilize.

LL - we are probably comparable if not warmer with humidity typically in 50-60% range. In the instance discussed here they will burn if they dry out too quickly. if they are chronically under watered for a few weeks you will see the oldest leaves yellow and fall off or some combination of burn and yellowing.

Oh yeah, I know San Antonio. I served at Lackland in the 1970s when the Royal British and Saudi Arabian Air Force trained with the US recruits .... ages ago! Yes, the climate is similar during your summer. The difference is we don't really cool down. I do remember wearing a light jacket in Jan when I was in Texas.

My plumies are young and are in 6" - 10"pots. They are in full sun and get watered every day to every other day, depending on rainfall. They do not burn. So far, these have bloomed:

Jim Little "Pink Pansy"

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"Bali Whirl"

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I can't keep that close of an eye on my plants. I work long days and sometimes barely have time to sleep.

Latinlady what is that last pic of? Plumeria?

Thank you saplumeria and LatinLady I checked out their site they have a lot of varieties. But I will check and see if any members would be willing to share their seeds like both of you suggested.

Also beautiful plumeria. Best of luck with all of them all.

Drago where are you located? I have one with a seed pod. It will still be sometime till it's ready though. I think I have a couple of more seed pods starting to come out now. I won't mind sharing when I have some.

Is this the beginning of seed pods?

Also how long does it take for them to open?

Latinalady and Saplumeria, lovely blooms. Very beautiful. Alas, I will have to wait 2-3 more years if can grow my small plant to bloom here in Northern CA.

I live in Michigan saplumeria but I grow year round. But by time your pods are ready it should be nicer here again. If you don't mind sharing with me then. I would greatly appreciate it.

I'm not a plumeria expert but I believe that is the start of a seed pod. Congrats

I think it takes about nine months for the pod to completely develope and open.

This one is a little further along, and it is beautiful. Four inch blooms.

Those flowers are beautiful and the pod too. I've been trying to get mine to set seed pods but they just keep falling off before they develop more.

Saplumeria, what region are you in? Wow, your plumeria looks like it is thriving and beautiful blooms. Can you share your soil mix and/or fertilizing type/schedule?

Saplumeria, ignore my question about region. I now know you are in SA. I was just there going to Riverwalk in July. Darn, if I had known, I would have invited myself over to your house for a tour and left with some cuttings :). My in-laws are in Houston area so I am there almost annually so kids can see grandparents.

I've been following this discussion, and I think I realized that what we lack in the bay area is not the sun, but the humidity! We are so dry that we need to worry about burning in the sun, which doesn't happen in more humid settings. I was thinking about all the plumerias i have seen in Asia which are all in full sun in much hotter climes, and yep, the common factor is humidity! I think the_first_kms was indicating this when he told me to not worry about sunburn if watered regularly! I might have to water more than once a week during very hot spells. For now, I have my newly acquired plant in morning and noon sun, but afternoon and evening shade. I'll keep monitoring it's behavior!

KC

KC, you are right about humidity. My sapling's leaves did burn when I had it in full sun. Spot it right away and now back under canopy with filter sunlight and doing great. I have drowned out my desert rose cuttings/plants before so I am very weary about overwatering so real cautious about moisture but do wonder if my plants could be better with the right watering regimen. It is really tough to have small plants so do not have confidence to try/experiment different things fear of killing my precious :).

Saplumeria:

Bali Whirl aka Bali mas.

The first known double yellow ten-petal flower. Discovered in
Indonesia, it appears to be a sort of Celadine. It has the same strong
unique sweet scent and good texture. Most desirable plumeria for
fragrance. Medium compact tree. A good thick upright grower but needs
more water than others to get a lot of blooms. Temperamental.
Recommended for the coast. Only true double 10 petal with citrus
fragrance. Too bad the flowers don't stay long enough for you to enjoy
them. They essentially have no stem on the bud so there isn't much to
hold them once the bloom is open. Smells just like the Celadine. Drops
flower buds. Seedlings from Bali Whirl tend to go Celadine. Must be hot
to get flowers to open.

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Color: Yellow with pale edges

Flower Size: 10 petals, 3" Flower

Blooming: Average, but blooms do not last long.

Growth: Medium Compact Grower

Scent: Sweet, smells like Celadine

AKAs: Bali mas

Notes: The first known double yellow ten-petal flower, discovered in Indonesia

Considering conditions such as time of year, geographic location, hours of sun, and climate it is very common for people to keep things on the dry side just to be safe.

I have found in my climate with 300+ days of sun each year I typically water by drip irrigation (1/2 hour, various emitter sizes) or hand water 1 x per week from March to April, 2x per week in May, 3x per week in June, 4x per week in July and August, and then start backing it down to 2x in September. Plus any rain. The more full sun the more water needed. The question everyone has to figure out for themselves is how much "more" is more?

That's why growing common varieties is a great way to start and learn this hobby. From there a person typically learns to read the plants and make changes without feeling like you are betting the farm.

You learn something new everyday. Never knew that kind of plumeria existed.

The first kms2, you've got tbis down to a science.

The one I called Apple cinnamon bloomed. Top pic looks like a slice of Apple, and it smells like cinnamon.

KMS2, thanks for clear info on watering. That helps a lot. I will still need to know my area and also know my plants. But very helpful.

SAPLUMERIA, beautiful bloom. I can smell the fragrant with the close up photo...

I struggle to protect them this winter. We had a pretty cold winter here in San Antonio. I lost 7 and multiple tips to the cold, Now it seems you've gone from one extreme to another. This summer has been brutal so far, but even with all the extremes I've had some bloom. Hope to have some more bloom before winter, so I can cull though them and target my keepers.

Yeah it's been a fast shift from cold to hot without our normal very enjoyable spring. I counted 37 total days below freezing, 1 snow day, and 2 ice days this last winter. I haven't even bothered to see how many days over 100 we have had so far.

Crazy weather indeed. It has been so stinkin hot. Hit 110 last week. It has cold off a bit this week. Hope it lasts!

Yep, very cool spring. Almost no rain. Then some one turned on the heater from one day to the next. Next thing you know triple digits, Crazy. Got another bloom this week. Same bloom.

My Bali Whirl has bloomed again ... What a treat! @katiedolittle

Maria Elena

Your bali whirl is beautiful!