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Maximizing growing space on a small residential lot

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I've so far managed to plant over 130 fruiting plants/trees on an average size lot -- without looking too crazy or having upset neighbors. They plants are under two years old but I'm already getting more fruit/berries than I can handle. It's a nice hobby as well -- keeps me outside and active. Quite a bit of zone pushing as well -- thanks global warming!

* mangos -- mainly pickering, cogshall, mallika, peach cobbler, glen, raposa (otw in a week) and carrie (10 trees now)

* rollinia deliciosa -- 2 trees

* lychee -- 2 sweetheart, a mauritius and an emperor

* avocado -- choquette

* grumichama -- two bushes both black and yellow varieties

* trompo canistel

* barbados cherry

* peanut butter tree (bunchosia argentea)

* about two dozen pineapple varieties

* about 20 blueberry bushes of different varieties

* a Kohala Longan

* pomegranate -- 2 wonderful and 2 angel red

* Kary carambola (starfruit)

* 2 small achacha trees

* Rose apple tree

* honey crisp jujube tree

* Muntingia calabura tree (cotton candy berry tree) -- (kids love them)

* Moringa tree

* Sapodilla -- 3 trees of various varieties

* 2 sugar apple trees (prolific)

* dwarf mulberry

* passion fruit -- two purple possoms

* miracle fruit (novelty purposes)

* LSU Purple fig tree

* peaches -- 4 trees (3 tropic beauty and 1 tropic snow)

* jaboticaba tree

* blackberries -- about 7 different varieties on 12 bushes

* satsuma orange tree

* persian lime tree (makes great mojitos with the mint)

* guavas -- ruby supreme and 2 mexican creams

* not fruit but love the fragrant flowers anyway -- Michelia alba (2 trees), Michelia Figo and a Ylang Ylang

* veg garden -- malabar spinach, tomatoes, strawberries, string beans, mint, basil, etc

-- I'm also planting two feijoa (pineapple guava) trees on the last bit of unoccupied land that I have. The trick is to plant them as if they were ornamentals that just happen to bear fruit and use espaliers whenever possible. I also don't plant fruit trees in front (you can't tell I have a garden till you go in back or the side.)

Here are a few pics (covers most of the garden):



Anyone else maximizing their small space?

Comments (28)

  • 10 years ago
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  • 10 years ago

    Chobrego, wow everything looks great! I'm mostly envious of your RV though, ha ha. I've always wanted one.. but kinda pointless here. In particular, what do you have espalier'd? I'm attempting to espalier some pomegranates (they're in the ground), but the growth is SO painfully slow. I'm seriously considering taking them out and training them as trees in containers. If I take them out, I'd like to put a lamb Hass avocado tree there since their growth is more upright compared to many other varieties.

    I have a small backyard that can only support maybe three fruit trees in the ground. I have a baby Rapoza mango, a Eureka lemon, and those pomegranates in the ground (although like I mentioned, I may put a Lamb Hass there). We also have a ginormous palm tree. Front yard, I have tons of bananas and one day, I'll plant a Hawaiian Malama avocado tree there- it is in a pot now and so tiny. Everything else is in containers. Sigh.. I'd move to the countryside in a heartbeat if it meant tons of room for fruit trees, but of my family of four, I'm the only one who would prefer the "country" here in HI. We live in a little established town and yard space is a HUGE luxury, especially when the prices of houses here are already stratospheric. Honestly though, I can't complain as my yard space is bigger than most here.

    Chrobrego (Orlando 9b) thanked figsinhawaii
  • 10 years ago

    I espaliered the peach trees and the fig. Tropic beauty and Tropic Snow are two fantastic varieties from the University of Florida that produce large excellent quality peaches in our climate. They only need about 100 to 150 chill hours (below 40) while a normal peach may require 600 or more. I'm also envious that you live in Hawaii -- you can grow several trees that I can't since we're in the subtropics; breadfruit, mangosteen, rambutan, etc. I hear it's such a beautiful place.

  • 10 years ago

    That's really impressive. What is your watering system?

  • 10 years ago

    I use a rain machine wifi irrigation ($80 I think) and dedicated a zone for drip irrigation. I mainly use rain machine 8 nozzle drips on pvc. They are cheap and easy to install. Works great and very low maintenance. The plants get about three minutes of 4gph in the morning and in the afternoon each day. The soil stays moist but not oversaturated this way.

  • 10 years ago
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    Thanks very much for the details.

    ETA I'd love to see a video tour of your yard sometime.

  • 10 years ago

    Chrobrego nice setup!! Hey quick question, what nursery did you find achacha? I want one for the yard

  • 10 years ago
    I wish I had found them at a nursery. I got a couple of small just-sprouted seedlings from a lady who bought the seeds from someplace in Brazil. They are SLOW growers -- looking healthy but only about 8 leaves after a full year. Garcinias I'm told start off really slow but rapidly catchup later on -- about 4 years to fruit. You have to start them out in partial shade too -- the full sun will burn the leaves quickly.
  • 10 years ago
    I'm going to have to buy seeds or a tree online but I hate dealing with Internet Sales with trees.
  • 10 years ago

    For Achacha you might want to check with Pine Island nursery. At the Brevard Tropical Fruit club's tree sale back in April this year, Pine Island brought about 30 of them up, all about 3 and a half feet tall. That is where I got mine.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you dangermouse! I'm going to have to call tomorrow. My wife is from Bolivia and her and I both love the fruit but haven't had any for a while now since the last time we went.

  • 10 years ago

    Wow is all I can say!!! I was expecting a jungle but you've done a beautiful job planning it all out. I love that it still looks like a backyard oasis and not a farm You will be eating healthy all year long!

    Chrobrego (Orlando 9b) thanked wanna_run_faster
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks wanna_run-faster. Our family is eating a lot of fresh produce now and have PLENTY to share too. My 80 yr old mother routinely does her 'shopping' trip by walking through my yard. My wife is the reason it doesn't look like a jungle -- a quick 'no' from her usually keeps my planting limited to the better positions.

  • 10 years ago

    Chrobrego

    we are 2 peas in a pod.

    i am maximizing space, and sun. i think my yard is a little smaller, or maybe its just the greenhouse i built that is taking up space.

    anyway, i am in New Orleans (9a) and am growing almost the same list as you


    Mamey bottom-left, Pomegranate, bottom-center, mulberry-right, papaya-left


    barbados cherry -center-rear, Feijoa center-right, autumn olive-right, starfruit center-left, mango in containers, 4 jujube and 2 strawberry gauva yellow and red are hard to see. Mex-cream guava in container bottom left.



    Jaboticaba, chickory, passionflower vine on house

    Jujube fruit


    blood orange -center, autumn olive, mango (against fence, with fruit) Jaboticaba-red, fig


    pink guava-left, Mex Cream guava-middle, Black mission fig center-front, Mutingia-right, moringa left-rear




    Cherimoya, Black Sapote


    Kiwi -Loquat (old pic, they are much larger now)

    large Mamey =left


  • 10 years ago
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    Greenman62, love the yard. I would definitely feel right at home in your garden. You've maximized your space incredibly well! Very brave of you to grow Mamey in 9a. How's it coming along? I would love to have one, but I'm afraid a freeze will zap it; same for growing jackfruit.

  • 10 years ago

    Mamey is 3yrs old

    2 years ago in winter it lost all leaves and even a few small branches, and the very top as well.

    Last winter was not as bad. we had one frost. it hit 32F for a few hours. it had lost a couple of leaves and stopped growing, but besides that it is doing well. I heard green sapote is more hardy and tastes just as good. i wish i had gotten seed for that instead.

    Jackfruit are not doing so hot. i lost 2 thier first year (3yrs ago). i have 1 in ground that frose back to a nub, and 1 in a container that had lost leaves and a twig or 2. last winter, again, was not harsh at all, and they did better, but still lost leaves, and it took months for them to grow new ones.


    this is the container plant. - recent pic

    this is the in ground plant - pic is from April

    it looks MUCH better now, it has lots of green leaves. just hoping we get another mild winter



  • 10 years ago

    I think tropical fruit growers are the few people in the world happy with global warming. I may just buy a gas guzzler to help speed the warming up a bit -- might let me finally grow that jackfruit I've been wanting.

  • 10 years ago

    Chrobrego,

    it's amazing how you can plant so many plants and still be able to maintain a spacious yard. Do you have a double or triple lot there? My double lot is quickly filling up ... I haven't counted how many plants, but I have bought more plants than I can handle .. lol. I have put some in the ground this year. I'll post some pix later. Thanks for sharing the beautiful pictures of your plants and yard.

    Chrobrego (Orlando 9b) thanked bananafan2
  • 10 years ago

    Greenman,

    I love all the pictures of your yard too. You really do have a huge collection there and they all seem to be growing so well for you. I can tell you've put in a lot of effort there. I hope you'll be able to enjoy your harvest all summer long. Right now, only my mango, banana and gojiberry and pineapple guava are fruiting. We've just harvested all our lychees in June and earlier in Apr/May our blueberry.

  • 10 years ago
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    Chrobrego - very inspiring to see how you maintain your yard. I'm curious where you got those black plant stands under your pots? I have mine all huddled together on the brick so they kind of shade each other, that brick gets pretty hot in the summer. My small collection that I have here in Jacksonville FL includes:

    3 dragonfruit (Halley's Comet, Physical Graffiti, and a Vietnamese white fleshed one)

    3 jaboticaba (Sabara, Grimal, and a red jaboticaba)

    4 mangos (lemon zest, carrie, pickering, mahachanok)

    1 pitangatuba

    2 sapodilla

    In the yard not pictured I have 2 murcott oranges, 2 yuzu, and a celeste fig

  • 10 years ago
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    noobfruit, I like how you potted your dragon fruit with the wooden frame. Do the pots tip over when the wind is strong? I have one dragon fruit that is so twisted that I dare not even try anything on it for fear of being stabbed by it ... lol. So, it's still in its original pot when I bought it. I should have done something to i when it was younger ...

  • 10 years ago

    So far no issues with the pot blowing over, but the dragonfruit are only a year old. Before they get too top heavy I will probably have to build some sort of box...

  • 10 years ago

    noobfruit, I have absolutely no room left, but I really want a pitangatuba. Heard they are great.


  • 10 years ago
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    Your Muntingia calabura tree interested me since I'd never heard of it. Upon further research I found;

    "In Florida, in recent years, the fruits are infested with the larvae of the Caribbean fruit fly and are accordingly rarely fit to eat."

    Do you find this to be true in Orlando? I'm concerned since I live near Miami which is obviously much more south and therefore closer to the Caribbean and their fruit flies.


    Source: https://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/jamaica_cherry.html



  • 10 years ago

    Hi,


    I've had the trees for a couple of years now, and haven't had any issues. The fruit is excellent here. I'm not sure about Miami (fruit flies are more established there), but Orlando is fine. I also can grow guava without bagging so I think we must not have many flies here.

  • 10 years ago

    FWIW, I live in Stuart and have been investigating getting a muntingia calabra and I haven't found anyone in this area who has fruit fly problems, either.

  • 10 years ago

    Does achacha handle Florida 9B winter frosty nights without protection?