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My first seed pods!

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

A few weeks ago I crossed my white with red fringe with my double pink. Several of them appear to have taken! I have never even had a seed pod, much less crossed one. Hopefully it survives.

Also, the 4 year old that has never bloomed is budding!

I can't wait to see them. I'll cross my fingers now that they're not regular pinks.

Comments (55)

  • 10 years ago

    How exciting for you! I hope you will post on its progress so we can follow it through with you. I've read it before somewhere in the archives here, but how long do we expect it to take to mature?

    It will be another first for you if you can get viable seeds that result in your very own plants then you can name them as your own hybrids, even if it is, dare I say the word.........pink!..... lol.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Gill the seed pods take about 75 days to mature.

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    Jedoba a friend of mine shared this with me this morning and I thought it was too awesome to not post. Here you have some overly eager seeds in the pod!

  • 10 years ago

    Tracy, those seeds are as eager as I am for these pods!

    I counted 8 small double 'horns' on that one tree. I hope they all make it!

    I think I see some on some other plants too!!

  • 10 years ago

    That's a lot of sowing, yo! Or maybe they'll sow themselves like those in Tracy's pics.

  • 10 years ago

    Tracy, my handy day counting calculator tells me that 75 days from today is

    Saturday, September 17, 2016

    It is on my calendar!


  • 10 years ago

    How exciting Jerry! Now you are not the only one who is waiting for them to develop! It's a good time of the year, they should be huge! I didn't know that seeds may started to sprout right in a pod! That was sure interesting!

    jedobaTX9b thanked Elena
  • 10 years ago

    If I have that many mature in September, I'm probably giving some away! That's just too many!

    I looked at them tonight (I'm sure I will daily), and they're already twice as big as they were.

  • 10 years ago

    Is it crazy that we all will be waiting to see what happens in Sept?

    Seeds growing in the pod, Wow What area of the world did they do this in, Tracy.

  • 10 years ago

    How exciting! What method did you use to pollinate? Also, do the pods form where the blooms fall off like plumeria?

  • 10 years ago

    Someone had posted the steps using dental tools. I apologize for not remembering right now because they deserve credit.

    I didn't use the tools, just made my own, and followed their steps.

    The pods do form right where the flower fell.

  • 10 years ago

    Is it this one? How to Hybridize, updated

    I remember coming across it while trying to figure out how to cross-pollinate and the author listed two dental tools but I was sitting there to myself thinking, "I'm just gonna use normal tweezers." hehe.

    His pictures were the ones that finally helped me locate where the pollen was. His low success rates made me nervous but did prepare me for the possibility that I might not get anything on my first attempts.


    I think ultimately if I had to guess when it comes to mine, I wouldn't be surprised if my big desert rose that was grafted doesn't form any seed pods, but that instead my smaller one that looks grown from seed might set some itself. My fingers are crossed for now.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for posting the link to that informative pollination guide, it was very interesting to read. From the info it gives, it seems like my white flowered plant that does show two small growths where a flower has dropped and which I thought 'could' possibly be the beginnings of a self pollinated seed pod, are very unlikely to be so. I'm now hoping like you Dragonstone, that two of my plants will have flowers at the same time. That pic of the pod with germinated seeds is ace, talk about cutting out the middle man!

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    That's it dragonstone!

    Thanks for locating it. I used that, and used a toothpick to capture the pollen.

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    Can anyone tell me the name of this?

  • 10 years ago

    Hello Dina (?) best if you start a thread of your own especially when asking a question. More so when it's not related to the original subject matter, you then stand a higher chance of getting replies specific to you, without going OT, hope you don't mind me mentioning this :-)

    That said, it's extremely hard to give a name to a plant based purely on a flower as it would be along the lines of ...'it looks like * *'' none of us would be able to say for certain. Post a separate thread by all means and see what happens! Give us some more info as to where you got it from, seed sown or bought, type etc etc.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    I'm now seeing only 3 doubles, and the rest seem to have been culled.

    Buds on other plant are still going!

    If even 3 doubles make it, I promise to give at least one full pod away. (maybe more)

  • 10 years ago

    Gill, I guess i'm not navigating this site correctly. Should I start a new thread in the search bar? And yes it's Dina and thanks for the tips, I've only recently started following the thread here. Well, originally in the plumeria thread with jedobaTX9 and a few others. It's now plumiepeeps. Sorry, I need to make a more concerted effort to be a part of all the groups I follow, just learning how. :/ But please don't kick me out!

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Dina. All you gotta do is start a new thread on the Adenium forum page here: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/adenium Good luck! :)

  • 10 years ago

    At the top of each page is a search box to search any subject on Adenium or plumeria. just type what you want. Things like soil, double flower, or watering. Don't fret I still fumble after a year with somethings,

    If you go to your profile you can a grow zone and location it also makes it easier to help.

  • 10 years ago

    No one is going to throw anyone out, or else! :-)

    Gill

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    Ok, this is the pod in the second picture ONE WEEK later... I cannot believe the progress! Three pairs still remain. You might notice another emasculated flower on the plant. I tried crossing it the other way today!

  • 10 years ago

    Now you get to watch the pods swell. Don't I wish

    jedobaTX9b thanked Marica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
  • 10 years ago

    Marica these originated in the tropical part of Africa and Arabia. So exciting Jedoba!

    jedobaTX9b thanked addicted2plants Southern IL USA
  • 10 years ago

    Wow Jedoba! Hasn't it only been a week since you pollinated this? Exciting!

    jedobaTX9b thanked dinamc1
  • 10 years ago

    Very impressive ... growing fast! Congratulations, jedoba. Sending good vibes your way.

    jedobaTX9b thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    Smaller two sets are slower growing. It's like watching plumeria branching; one is always faster growing than the others, and so on down the line, like the story of The Three Bears. Strangely enough, after I typed that, I looked, and labeled Papa bear, Mama bear, and Baby bear in my head (I'm very visual), and noticed that "Mama" is cradling "Baby"!!

    The large pair are just over 11.5 inches @ 2 weeks. Conservatively speaking, that's 10 inches in 14 days! I cannot believe how fast these grow.

  • 10 years ago

    "Mama cradling baby" ... That is too precious. What a treat it is watching these grow. I can't believe how big they are in such a short time. Thank you for sharing. Hoping for strong seed production and tons of gorgeous flowers!

    jedobaTX9b thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    Jedoba, are you doing anything special or just watering as usual? I think mine may have seed pods forming and I don't want to lose them. The one I had on a plumeria fell off and I'm not sure why.

  • 10 years ago

    Sorry for the late response.

    I'm watering heavily as usual! It is hot and sunny here now. Even with the large trays, they dry out in one day.

    In the post above on July 9th, I said I'd just crossed the 'mama' plant (lookalike for Noble Concubine) with my double pink. I thought it had taken a couple of days ago, but now I am sure. (Pic soon)

    So, I should have seeds going both ways with these plants! I cannot wait to grow some to see differences.

    I'll be giving some of these away as promised!

    (I also just crossed the dbl pink with a black skin red flower I bought. I didn't even know the flower was red, I just liked the black skin!

  • 10 years ago

    Does the black skin last when it is an adult? I would love some of those seeds if they do. Quick growth must be the water and temps.

  • 10 years ago

    The black skinned one that was daddy in this case is about 2 years old. I will post a pic in a bit. I'm really hoping that one takes.

  • 10 years ago

    New seed pod (aphids yukk)

    red flowers/ black skin

  • 10 years ago

    Jedoba,

    So nice to see you are getting seed pods after all your dedication. Congratulations, once again!!!

    Of course, you'll need to move fast on those aphids ... Yuck, indeed!!! I've had excellent results just manually removing with an alcohol moistened cotton swab, washing down with mild dish liquid & water, then moving to a new location. In my case, I've been very lucky and one treatment worked for mealy bugs, scale, & aphids. Be careful ... some soaps will burn the leaves.

    All the best to you!

    - Maria Elena

    jedobaTX9b thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Jedoba. We've had a lot of afternoon thunderstorms and I was concerned that mine were staying too wet. I hope not. It looks like I have quite a few seed pods on the pink one. None on the red one yet. I hope I can keep these from dropping off like the plumeria seed pod did. I'll post pics when they're a little bigger. I'll be happy to share as well if you or anyone else want some. The ladybugs really took care of my aphid problem. Yay!

    jedobaTX9b thanked dinamc1
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    I keep trying, but haven't had any luck yet with my plumeria. I'm getting pollen on my probe, but nothing has taken yet.

    I honestly don't think we can over water adenium in this heat though. Mine seem to love the moisture when it's hot. My entire backyard was under 2 inches of water for 2 days this summer, and the plumeria never blinked either.

  • 10 years ago

    Weekly update: 15, 12, and 10 inches long.

  • 10 years ago

    So far I only have one that is going to bloom. Ut gas 10 blooms, I might have a chance with male and female. I want to hand pollinate it, She is in the house so I can watch and try.

    Did not know seeds got that long. Hope they are fat with seeds.

  • 10 years ago

    Good luck Marica! I'm still not having any luck with plumeria if anyone has any pointers.

  • jedobaTX9b thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    Thank you so much LatinLady!

    That page made it clear what I was doing wrong!!

    I've been waiting for the flowers to fully open, not even considering doing it before opening fully.

  • 10 years ago

    Happy pollinating, my friend. Today is National Parents Day ... Maybe it's an omen!

    jedobaTX9b thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
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    It's
    also National Tequila Day!

  • 10 years ago

    There you go ... confirmed. Enjoy a Tequila while you pollinate your plumerias ... I hope they all take.

    jedobaTX9b thanked Maria Elena (Caribbean - USDA Zone 13a)
  • 10 years ago

    When I went out this morning, the top horn of "mother" had dried and split along the seam. I don't think I lost any seeds. but I also noted that the pod had opened prematurely because most of the seeds were immature.

    I carefully ripped the pod from the tree just above the union point with the plant.

    I *may* have four good seeds from it.

    I am fine with it, because I now have about 10 other sets growing!

  • 10 years ago

    Gee, Jed. Do you think you have enough for the zombie apocalypse? lol

    Pagan

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    Honestly, when I orginally crossed and pollinated, I had no idea that I would get so many seeds from each pod. I have seen people claim numbers of ~100+ per pod!! (is that per "horn"?)

    On my oldest tree (a pink), I pollinated it with itself about 30 times one day, and then it rained really hard within 30 minutes. I think at this point, I'm glad it rained..

    I plan to sow some of these seeds, but many of them will be offered to others here!

    Question: how should I dry these seeds?

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    I posted somewhere else that I sowed 10 of the weakest seeds. I either grew minis, or extremely weak plants. (Surely the latter?)

    Both of these are 2-3 weeks, and tiny.

    I still have four pods on my oldest pink, and two very large ones on my double pink. Double pink will complete soon, and those who reserved seeds will be shipped.

    I believe I will have many seeds remaining as even the pods that opened early had ~20 in each pod.

    If size of pod is any indication, and it should be, the double pink will have 60 per pod.

    So if you want seeds, please let me know.

  • 10 years ago

    I messaged you my address. So excited!