Hey Linda, I tried to grow a couple of Cyril's Choice plants last year in another garden plot. They didn't seem to grow as vigorously as my other plants, they had more of a bushy habit and were smaller than the others. Maybe they were like this because they are determinate plants.

Anyway, I noticed quite a few plants seem to have leaf curl during the day, but don't think they had anything wrong with them. I think my CC plants did have some leaf curl, but otherwise seemed healthy. They didn't produce a lot of fruit in early June, and because of incessant rains later in the month, I lost most of my plants to disease in about a month and a half, including my two CC plants.

So, don't know if that helps much, but that is my experience with them. I was curious where you got them, I could not find a lot of places that sold them. I got mine from Ohio Heirloom Seeds and tried them because of their description of the plants.

If the named variety is the only one with curled leaves, I wouldn't worry about it. To my experience some varieties are prone to leaf curling but as far as growing and producing that should not make a difference.

Cold weather and excess watering often are factors.

Sey

Subdood,

Many thanks for the info. Cyril's Choice is a compact plant as well as being a determinate, which is why it should be happy in a 3 gallon container (or is it?) {LOL}.

I really appreciate your feedback. Maybe that is just the way they look and they will be fine. Mine aren't putting out much fruit compared to Jagodka and Early Annie.

I couldn't find anywhere to buy them either except Ohio Heirloom Seeds and they seemed to really love them, so fingers crossed!

If you need some seeds, I will save some (assuming that they survive).

Sey, some varieties are known for having curly leaves, but I haven't seen it mentioned for CC. However, the variety isn't that well known so who knows?

Linda

I've noticed that some of the smaller dwarf types have a "semi-weeping" habit that, with their rugosity and denseness and stiffness of foliage actually has a "curly" or "fluffy" look due to the leaflets curling downward. Is that what you're seeing? Maybe Cyril's Choice has whatever genes are involved in that. I've seen that quality in the very dwarf tomatoes I've grown, Red Robin and Hahm's Gelbe Topftomate.

Yes Gorbelly, it is the leaf stem that curls rather than the leaves themselves.

I have grown Utyonok which is well-known for leaves that curl up, but this is different.

Right now, I am giving the plant a long soak, just to see if it was extra thirsty. It already drank all the water that was in its saucer, so perhaps I wasn't watering it enough...... What tipped me off were all the ants that I spotted exiting from the drainage holes the other day.

Linda

I think I was unclear. The entire leaf stalk curled on my RR and HGT. It almost looked like the plant was hugging itself. When it got larger, it looked like a big, curly hairstyle. Here are some photos from Passion tomate of what I mean: http://ventmarin.free.fr/passion_tomates/tomates_h/hahms_gelbe_topftomate_feuilles_fleurs.htm

And here's one of Red Robin: http://tomatoesplus.com/redrobinplant.JPG

Yep! I understood you. It's the entire leaf stalk curled under.

L.

Here's the picture of Cyril's Choice!

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Linda

Huh. The curling downward seems to be in line with other dwarfs. But there does seem to be a lot more leaf cupping than I've seen on other plants. Ohio Heirloom Seeds has a photo in which you can see that the new growth has that kind of cupping (second photo, if you look at the top of the plant. So maybe this variety is prone to that even with mild stress?

EDIT: (never mind re: drainage--I forgot you mentioned ants and soaking the containers.)

Let us know how it goes with this plant. There's so little information on it.

Gorbelly,

You're right! At first the plant looks normal, but when you look closer at the new growth, it IS cupped!!!

Hoping this is a tasty one. I'll be sure to report back with a taste test!

Linda