I've never had a problem with clothes coming out of the dryer wet. Your dryer is definitely going out, or has already gone out. I am not nearly as worried about dryers as I am when looking for a washer. I would think if you are just not wanting the steam option, you could buy which ever one you can afford. I have no advice concerning GE however, but from what I understand, so many brands are now owned by the same parent company. I think it is hard to know exactly what you are getting now.

Clothes eventually dry, I just reset it and run again. Which takes more time. But you could be right about the dryer dying. I may have to kill it off early.

GE is now owned my a chinese company.

Does your washer have a perm press cycle..do you use it? Poly will give permenant wrinkles if not washed and spun out correctly.

Most people have tons of complaints about TL HE machines..I'd recommend if you want HE to think about a FL'er. Have you ever had a FL'er? Are you considering a new set of machines?

Yes, I use perm-press (or easy care, or whatever) cycle. I do not want a FL. Exact same clothes were perfect in the old machines.

Need further details on the dryer. Model number?
There could be an obstruction in the exhaust ducting. Proper airflow is just as important, if not more so, than heating. A dryer can heat all day long but the clothes won't dry worth a flip if the evaporating moisture can't be exhausted out of the drum .... not to mention that airflow is what brings the heat into the drum in the first place.

I can't vouch for how the machine has been maintained. GE Eterna EED2000A1WW

Actually I am really pleased with the GE dryer. Every once in a while a sheet gets twisted and it needs to be untwisted in order to dry properly but otherwise I have no issues.

It beats the old Maytag fried clothes problem. I used to have to air dry all clothing out of the old Maytag washer because the old dryer was just way too hot.

I think Dadoes is onto something, I would clean out the entire dryer duct before contemplating buying a new dryer because if the duct is the problem a new ducted dryer will have the same problem.

Can I ditto the duct work? When we bought this house, my new Maytag was turning off before a large load of towels completely dry, and I was finding a 'steamy' not mildew or musty smell in the utlility closet across from the washer and dryer from time to time when doing laundry that was beginning to concern me. When I had the heating/cooling company here for an annual furnace check-up I asked (knowing they did duct work) if they could run new vent/ duct from the dryer to outside - dryer venting runs under the floor from the laundry room to outdoors in this 1955 house, about 16' worth. They put in a straight shot of stainless and problem solved. It was expensive but I suspect the old could have become a fire hazard....

We will look at the dryer vent. But what about the washer? Would I recreate my comfortable old world with a new low-level non-HE washing machine and get wrinkle-free clothes again?

Probably not...these low level machines, actually I think all TL machines except one..have drastically changed..they no longer fill full, hot is dubbed down to warm along with other changes. Speed Queen does offer an old skool TL machine like you would have had in your old WP but its not cheap..its between 700--800 dollars, but that includes a 3 year warrenty on the manual control and I think 5 years on the electronic.

"Deep water wash"

http://www.lowes.com/pd/Whirlpool-3-5-cu-ft-Top-Load-Washer-White/1000064061

Does it have true hot wash?

There a few other "old-style" toploaders that do a full-fill than just Speed Queen ... such as the Whirlpool model you found (although it likely has restricted water temperatures). Fisher & Paykel's WashSmart model is a full-fill agitator toploader rated 22lbs capacity, and does a full-hot fill on the Allergy cycle (with two deep rinses). Also has choices of 330 RPM, 670 RPM, and 1,110 RPM spin, and a 2-hr soak function.

My whirlpool TL fills pretty full on the xtra large load capacity setting. It is an old fashioned, non-HE machine.

I don't think it's the amount of water in the wash cycle that is the problem. I think that it is the spin. When It spins at high speeds clothes get wrinkled. When it spins at lower speeds clothes don't dry out as much but they also don't get as wrinkled.

Does it have true hot wash?

I've been reading this forum for quite awhile, and I really like the people here, but I have to say that I just don't get a lot of things. I can't recall the last time I ran a load with hot water, true or not. I only use one detergent (Persil, which I learned about here), bleach every once in a while, but Oxyclean in most loads. My clothes are clean enough for me, altho I might not pass muster if we all met face-to-face. (I think I'd just go out and buy all new things if I were to attend a Gathering of Laundry Forum people.) I sort my clothes sorta. I do maybe 4 or 5 loads per week at most. I don't dream of laundry, it's more a necessary evil. But I really want my permanent press things to be wrinkle-free.

That was my confession. Shall I sign it?

12 Hail Marys and Iron a Large Basket of Clothes for absolution! :)

Sushipup - Thanks for your confession, but nobody needs to pardon you or absolve you of a sin; laundry is personal and everyone is entitled to his or her own practices. I think there is a lot of merit in doing the bulk of one's laundry in the cool-warm range, especially if the clothes aren't heavily soiled. It's certainly easier on the fabric.

For me, the need to have a "true hot wash" is necessary for two types of laundry that I do a lot of: bedding and kitchen linens. I have allergies, and hot water is about the only way to keep my bedding from being a sneeze zone. I also use lots of towels (rather than paper towels) in the kitchen, so a really hot wash is needed to clean and somewhat sanitize them.

My two cents. Glad you're happy with your routine. I'm sure it works well for you!

Real "permanent press" or "wash-and-wear" items (which involves a chemical treatment to the fabric during production) need warm or hot water to relax the fabric for shedding wrinkles. Not all clothing that is commonly considered to be "permanent press" nowadays really is treated with the process.

Wikipedia.org - Permanent Press

The Wonderful World of Wash 'n' Wear - 1958 Whirlpool Corporation

Thanks for the absolution, I do feel better. Dadoes, I am washing the exact same clothes that I washed in February in my old machines before the move. I just would like things (washed warm/rinse cool) to come out the same now. These are items that may date back 5 years. We are very plain people, chino-style slacks or jeans and either button-down shirts or crew neck cotton t-shirts. No athletic clothes, not too many towels for the two of us (not changed every day), no kids anymore, no grease monkeys or master gardeners here. An occasional dog rug. Sigh, as I get older, I wonder how in the world did everything get so complicated. I didn't used to be a Luddite, but the world is whizzing by.

I do feel that I represent a huge number of people out there who might come here to this forum and get scared away, except that I've been here since 2001, and I know many of you people and I love you all. So I'm not scared, just bowing my head in reverence and asking for minor advice.

Lengthening the drying process may help deal with wrinkles. Try various combinations of lower spin speeds (for more moisture retention going into the dryer) and lower drying temps (for longer drying/tumble).

sushipup, I also wonder how my clothes would stack up, in person, with others in this forum. And with an expensive washing machine and iron, I'd have no excuse for any shortcomings.

As you know, this is the least judgmental group of folks you'll find. I do believe, however, that anyone who posts that they don't use hot water is fair game for some gentle prodding. So, take a look at the FAQ tab on the page for Tide Plus Coldwater Clean HE:

http://tide.com/en-us/shop/type/he-liquid/tide-coldwater-clean-he-liquid

Q: Is to OK to use laundry detergent in cold water?

A: You can use our detergents with cold water, but warm or hot water provides the best cleaning results. [...]

Cold water...LOL..just joking.

I'm another one that wonders what would happen if I suddenly came face to face with another member here, what if my white blouse was wrinkled from 6 hours of wear or my black slacks had dog hairs stuck to them, gawd, my reputation would be ruined, LOL..ya know what were all the same here we all strive to have clean clothes and we enjoy the chore of laundry and we enjoy each others talk of all things laundry related. I would hope no one would be scared off from this room as there's a great bunch of terrific folks here always ready to give great advice...after all that's what the laundry room is about, well, that and as a meeting place for us laundry Cray Cray's.

I could care less about the "true hot wash". My kitchen towels are the only fabric marked to use hot water. Everything else calls for "cool." but "cool" can be a problem. I think that dadoes is onto something when he tells you that the fabric has to be at least warm in order to relax. Some of these washers aren't reaching a temperature that any normal human being would describe as warm and that also maybe part of the problem.

I only use the warm wash/cool rinse, I don't wash in cold ("cool") water.

Right, but "warm" wash water on many of the HE machines nowadays with restricted temperatures may be low as 75°F.

So are non-HE machines better in that regard?

Non he machines have the same water temperatures as dictated by individual manufacturers. If the machine has an automatic temperature control sensor, your "hot" water will be warm water to the touch. Maybe in the arctic 75F water is considered hot.

Thanks, have always had machines hooked up to normal hot/cold water. So the newer machines are more restricted than in the Good Ol' Days?

And warm water may be cool.

Thing about Perm Press is its a man made fiber, it doesn't breath well, it also doesn't absorb water well, which means hot or very warm should be used in order to relax and open the fibers so as to release soils. But...hot water washing on perm press also means there should be a cool down phase in order to prevent the spin cycle from causing wrinkles, some of which could be permenant ..which is why some washers have a perm press cycle. on the other side of the coin...cool or tepid washing of perm press isn't going to do much in the way of removing soils but it can also cause wrinkling. I suspect Sushipup that your old WP did a nice warm wash on your perm press clothing. .but maybe your new GE only gives tepid on its warm cycle.

Sushipup...yes many of the washers today when you choose hot or warm they add a bunch of cold to it so for hot you may only get warm and possiable only slightly warm and a warm cycle could be cool. And many people don't know this because the control panel has an option for hot wash but with the lid locks...well folks just don't know their not getting that hot or warm wash.

Thank you all. I am learning so much. Love you all.

Sushipup, I feel your pain. I have a Maytag Bravos XL toploader. I don't really have any complaints about the job it does cleaning my clothes, but I keep struggling with wrinkles. I've found that as practigal said earlier, it has a lot to do with the spin cycle. I was so excited to get this machine because it did such a good job spinning so my drying cycles were less, but I think it does a little too good of a job. My machine has 3 options for spin, and I wash anything that tends to wrinkle on the low spin option. I still use the high spin option for towels, etc, but all our work clothes are done on low. I hate to do that because it makes the dryer work harder, but that's the only way I've been able to survive. I'm still thinking of replacing the machine at some point.

If the machine does not have an internal heater, you also need to consider the distance to the water heater. The longer the pipe from heater to machine, the more cold water that will be sitting in the hot water pipe. In my house the kitchen sink is the next water outlet after the washer so I open the kitchen sink's hot water until it runs really hot then I start the washer that way there is already hot water closer to the machine in the pipeline.

Hi @sushipup1!

On my discussion Um, what's with all my new followers you asked what was the solution.

But by the time I saw it, i had already deleted the thread. What I did was that i went to advanced settings and clicked No Followers button. That took all the "FAKE" accounts from following me.

I then clicked it back on. But that only works temporarily though. They will find your account again if you unclick it. I don't have a problem with new followers UNLESS they have uncomfortable profile pictures. Hope You Fix Your Problem!