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Two jades not looking so good

10 years ago

Two of my jades (a Hummel's Sunset and a gollum) aren't looking great. The Hummel is the worst:

But the gollum seems to have a little bit of the same thing happening:

Both started around the same time, and both have lost a couple of leaves. It has been hot and very humid lately, and when this started I thought maybe it was just the spotting (edema?) that jades get when it's hot and humid. But, then the Hummel in particular got much worse.

I had these under T5HO lights (since I have limited sun on windowsills), but it's hotter there, so in case the heat is making things worse I've moved them to the windowsill. Any other ideas?

Comments (7)

  • 10 years ago

    It really looks like a burn, by heat or light.

    michael19 thanked garrett222
  • 10 years ago

    I think so too Garrett, they look fried crisp. But I really can't see that happening on windowsill in z6.

    I am in colder zone, but we are having a much hotter and drier summer this year. It has been also very humid, humidity often being in nineties. It does fluctuates a lot, but it is very high. All my jades are outdoors, in full sun and none of them suffered such burns. I have some sun damage on few leaves, but nothing to compare to above:

    michael19 thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 10 years ago

    I'm glad it looks more like a burn than some sort of disease! They were about 4-5 inches from the lights, with no fan on them. It's completely anecdotal, but putting my hand under the lights vs. in the windowsill, it was somewhat warmer under the lights. (Also, the windowsill gets air from outside; the windows are always open, but the interior of the apartment stays warmer than the outside temps.) For what it's worth, the lights are on 15 hours a day.

    The windowsill I have them in now faces mostly east, so they get full sun in the morning but shade later in the day. They haven't been there long enough for me to see if this is helping, but I guess I'll see!

    I water them about once a week; the gritty mix gets dry after just a few days. Would watering more often (or less often) help them recover, or does this sound like a reasonable schedule?

  • 10 years ago

    Michael

    Do not water more often than when soil dries up, if there is a reason for sunburn, it isn't the watering. What I was guessing about is that I wonder about waterlogged leaves - since they are full of water, would they burn (fry) faster and worse? - but I have no idea.

    In gritty mix, you should water thoroughly when needed - check the mix for dampness (you can help yourself with a bamboo skewer, or chopstick or even pencil). Depending on what your mix is made of and the temp and humidity of environment they are in, it could be every few days or longer.

    The burn can't be repaired, the leaves will eventually fall off. You could snip them off too if you can't live with them:).

    I still wonder about the lights: 4-5" from the tubes still shouldn't cause that kind of burn. I have burned echeveria badly by having it close to CFL, but that is more 'sensitive' pant and it was less than 2" away from the bulb. Kevin (ewwmayo) uses H5TO and has some great notes/measurements somewhere on this forum...Hopefully he will see this post and posts his thoughts-facts.

    I just took few photo; here is the Gollum, in full sun from sunrise until about 6pm. If anything, there is little more yellow on the leaves, but nothing alarming:

    'Regular' jade right next to it - great color IMO, no burns:


    This one (Blue bird? Waves? - not sure) has more delicate/thinner leaves and got damage in same location - I moved it & it gets sun until about 12:30-1pm now:

    I am still wondering if your plants got sprayed by anything: rubbing alcohol? any pesticide? leaf shine? fertilizer solution? anything else?

    michael19 thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
  • 10 years ago

    I can't remember for sure if these were sprayed or not; a couple months ago (a good 3 or 4 weeks before I started noticing anything on these plants), I did spray some plants that showed signs of mealies with a mixture of about 30% isopropyl alcohol (the rest water, with a drop of dish soap). I can't remember if these were among those that got sprayed. I did watch all the plants after spraying, though, to see if I saw any yellowing or leaf damage, and saw nothing...could it have been delayed by 3–4 weeks?

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I don't think it would take that long....bit of a mystery :) Your solution was relatively weak, I use r. alcohol full strength sometimes. It is generally recommended to keep plants out of direct sunlight if spraying.

    If the water used contains lots of salts & minerals, it could also show as some spots on the leaves - but you should have seen it on many plants and for a while, I think.

    michael19 thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5a