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how long do you wait?

10 years ago

I am sure every crop is different but how long do you wait to replant if seeds don't come up? I planted a large variety of seeds on the 10th and most did not come up. I have replanted in different areas but wondering if I should plant over the rows from the 10th.

Comments (11)

  • 10 years ago

    I would, specially this time of year. Time is ticking quickly towards first frost, and you gave em 20 days already, that seems like a lot. In this kind of weather, you should get quicker germination of most seeds (I think).

  • 10 years ago

    Unless your seed is bad (if I know you, that's not true), it's the weather. the weather. The weather. So frustrating, too!

    SO, make a flat with some good starting soil (or garden dirt). Sow the seeds indoors or where it's convenient. As soon as they germ, pop them into the shade and graduate them to the sun. Take a spatula and lift them out of the flat in a big group and plant. By golly! hehe Dang Oklahoma weather.

    But, wait. You might have long rows or large areas?

    Cover those puppies to keep 'em moist and monitor the temps.

    Here's that germination table thingy that I love that I got from dawn:

    Temperatures for Germination


    Knowing the temps and germination rates, puts my mind at ease.

    bon

  • 10 years ago

    I'm tapping my foot waiting on lettuce to come up. Planted about 10 days ago.

  • 10 years ago

    I planted a bunch of lettuce not too long ago, and it came up within 5 days or so. And this was winter lettuce. You really do have to keep the soil moist though.

  • 10 years ago

    It depends on the seeds, the temperature and the moisture level. Generally, if seeds aren't up in 10-14 days, I replant. At this time of the year, germination is strongly driven by soil temperatures and moisture, and generally the soils are warm enough to impede germination but you can overcome that by keeping the soil consistently moist and by shading the ground temporarily. One of my favorite temporary shades is just to put 4 lawn chairs over the row or bed of seeds and tie an old bedsheet to each chair.

    Seeds can surprise you, though. A friend of mine sowed brussels sprouts seeds in the spring of 2015. He probably sowed them too late and the ground was too warm at that time for them to germinate. Those seeds survived heavy rainfall and flooding (twice our annual rainfall) for months in heavy red clay soil, sprouted in the fall of 2015 and provided a nice harvest of brussels sprouts beginning around December 2015 and continuing well into spring of 2016. You cannot count on something like that happening, but it is fun when it does occur.

  • 10 years ago

    I typed a whole big answer last night and then the submit tab was gone...

    Most of my seed is fresh but some is up to 3 years old. All different companies and some is saved. Well I checked everything again really well and replanted a few inches away from the original plant but still in line with the drippers. Some stuff I am out of seed like turnips. I am going to make a seed run Saturday after market.

    I think what happened is the soil compacted and crusted over after the heavy rains. We have been getting nice gentle rains yesterday and today.

    Bon I seriously thought about germination in flats but I am doing 2000 square foot area and the time it would take well.... I have no help this year so I don't know if I would get done before Christmas lol. My left arm is out of commission right now so I move twice as slow.

    I did get carrots, kale , chard, lettuces, spinach, peas and radishes sown. The carrots I put row cover on but the rest just have to come up. Period.

  • 10 years ago

    sometimes I put a board on a seed row for a few days, peeking under every day to see if anything sprouts. Then, take it off. The board keeps a crust from forming and making it tough for the seedlings to push through.

  • 10 years ago

    That is good idea. I tried the row cover in the spring and had the best germination rate ever with carrots. I was so excited it worked. I don't know why the soul crusts like it does but everyone here has the same problem. My son told me don't water after you plant, I haven't been but the rain did.

  • 10 years ago

    Soil crusts over due to low organic matter at the surface where the sun dries it out quickly and dehydrates whatever little organic matter there is, and also due to a lack of moisture. There's nothing you can do about it----even good soil with a decent level of organic matter in it can crust over. I use a board like Moni does (especially with carrot seed) or even heavy cardboard, though if I use cardboard then I use a couple of bricks or pieces of 2 x 4 lumber to hold it down so it won't fly away. Rain brings its own problems as heavy rain can wash away seed and cause the soil to crust over as it dries and there you sit waiting for your seeds to break through the crusty soil because you don't know the rain washed them away. I water after I sow seeds unless the soil is really moist, but I use a watering wand set on a fairly fine mist so that I'm not washing seeds deeper into the soil, especially tiny seeds.

  • 10 years ago

    I have some burlap strips abou 8" wide that I put over carrots or whatever at this time of year and keep them damp. I check under them regularly, like with a board. They're just a little easier for me to deal with than boards. I've not had an issue with them blowing away, maybe because they're in beds.

  • 10 years ago

    I like that idea too. I have more carrot seeds but I don't want to use all my row cover for that.

    I have gotten my broccoli Raab planted again . Now just to get the greens in.