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Do I have a predator?

10 years ago

I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this, but it's such an odd question this seems as good as any. Here goes. (Warning: nasty photo ahead!)

in June, I cleaned my fish pond and culled about 30 small natural colored goldfish. I put them in a large plastic tub until I figured out what to do with them. The next day I came out to find fish fragments scattered in the tub and on the ground. All the fish had been killed. The goldfish in my pond were unmolested, and still are doing fine.

There were no more incidents throughout June and July. Then about a month ago, I started finding dead animals in my yard on a regular basis. First it was a half grown rabbit in the fish pond. Then a young squirrel outside my back door. Then a chipmunk, again a young one, outside my back door. Now this morning, a small mole was floating in the pond. None of the latest animals, except the mole, showed any signs of blood or damage, although I can't say I looked that closely. The mole looks ... odd.

I don't own any animals other than my fish. I live in a small city in Wisconsin. What do you guys think is going on? Cat? Raccoon? Possum? As all the dead animals were garden pests (other than the fish) I'm actually kind of ok with what's going on, but I want to make sure my fish aren't in any danger. Do I have a mysterious phantom of the night?


Comments (14)

  • 10 years ago

    I vote cat. They kill for sport. As do terriers, but a cat would be stealthy while the dog would work itself up into a barking frenzy. Most other predators would eat the prey, or at least carry it away.

    generalfactotum thanked Richard Brennan
  • 10 years ago
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    Yea, most wildlife kill to eat for survival. Cats and people kill for sport.

    Guess there could be two different things going on here between the captive fish? and the others? Well unless the cat got in the tub? Or Not.

  • 10 years ago

    I find it strange that a neighbor's cat would leave the kills near YOUR back door instead of its owner's door.

  • 10 years ago
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    O me too, or a feral cat or a bobcat. Unless it is a secret admirer, I guess?

    Camera time for me.

    generalfactotum thanked gumby_ct
  • 10 years ago

    My first though with the fish situation was raccoons but I never see ours out in the country going for small game. For us that is the bobcats and the foxes. You might want to contact your local county ag extension agent and ask about local predator problems. They track those issues.

    Dave

    generalfactotum thanked digdirt2
  • 10 years ago
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    My guess would be a cat too. The folks who let me garden on their rural property have several cats, which frequently hunt in my garden. They often hill mice & voles - which I really appreciate - but seldom eat them. I find the dead mice laying in the paths. As others have stated, most other predators will eat what they kill.

    The goldfish in the tub would have been easy prey, as opposed to those in the pond. While a cat may have killed the fish, because all of the fish were apparently eaten, a raccoon would be my first suspect in that case. Raccoons have been really bad this year.

    generalfactotum thanked zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin
  • 10 years ago

    I think raccoons ate your fish and someone's cat is messing with the local small mammal population.

    generalfactotum thanked tcstoehr
  • 10 years ago

    After seeing all this, my feeling is that there are two predators. I think a raccoon got the fish. They were in about a foot and a half of water, and they were definitely eaten. I don't think a cat would do that. I think what puzzled me about the recent kills was the fact that 2 of them were in the pond. It has a small decorative fence around it (picture attached) so I couldn't think why a cat would put them in there. That's why I was thinking it was still a raccoon. Maybe, though, the injured animals, in their panic to get away ran into the water and downed.


    I will be contacting the ag agent in the morning to confirm. Thanks for the help!

  • 10 years ago

    Also wanted to note that we do have a variety of predators here. I've seen cats, possums, skunks, foxes and hawks. Never seen a raccoon, but I'm sure that they're around. I know that coyotes have also been spotted on the outskirts of town, though I don't think they hang out where I am located.

  • 10 years ago

    I may have missed where you are located but coons are almost everywhere. And so are cats <smile>

    generalfactotum thanked gumby_ct
  • 10 years ago

    I'm in Wisconsin (home of Rascal, for any Sterling North fans) so I don't doubt that there are a multitude of masked bandits roaming about. They are just too smart to let themselves be seen. And cats are indeed everywhere! ;)

  • 10 years ago

    I have to say...does not look like a cat kill to me...we have a good population of feral cats here, and they get moles, mice, chipmonks...every single time I've seen a cat kill, there have always been teeth marks on the neck...not little ones, very obvious teeth gashes...

    the fur peeled back on that mole is very odd...no cat I ever saw does that...a weasel might, but then again, you'd see the marks on the neck. I wonder about some kind of bird...hawk, owl...etc...this is the time of year when babies practice and learn...the only animal I've seen pluck fur like that was an eagle on a video cam of the nest...it plucked the fur off of a rabbit for it's young...reminds me of that.

    We have Blue Herons here, and I know when they bring the babies to "learn", because I find dead fish with a single hole through them...herons spear their prey...that's why I think it's a bird learning..

  • 10 years ago

    Forgot to say...beautiful pond! Well done!

    generalfactotum thanked Donna R