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10 years ago
I would like to remove this ceiling fan which hangs from the center beam in my living room of an open concept LR, DR & kitchen. I would like to have a light that highlights my Peacock painting. Question: Should I add a spotlight in place of the fan or should I cap the electrical box and get a picture/display light above the painting which is leaning on mantle. I have an electrical outlet behind the painting. Any product recommendations? When standing in front of the fireplace/painting it is north facing. Thanks so much!

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  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Because of the painting, it is easy to mix metals. I also noticed the serving tray/table in the living area and it has metal. Looks gold on my screen? So, yes, mixing is a wonderful thing, you just have to be careful about how you do it. One more small thing. Did you consider using velvet pillows on your white chairs in a color from Miss Peacock? Might want to bring another pillow in the bright blue/cobalt from her? I like the black, but just saying! Maybe those pillows are dark blue? You know how color is on monitors. I know the gold fixtures are a departure from your idea books and what you have been picturing, but somehow I think they would set your room apart from all others...in a great way! lol

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    You could always order them and nail them down while the price is right and make sure you can return if they don't work out. Might be a small restocking fee, but would be worth being able to try them.

  • 10 years ago

    I just have to say (again) that peacock really speaks to me. I LOVE IT !

  • 10 years ago

    Absolutely agree to mix metals. An aged or muted gold would look stunning!

  • 10 years ago

  • 10 years ago
    They don't sell them here in any store but the Kathy Kuo has a 30 day return and no stocking fee. I'm going to order the dining now and then I have a 10% off next purchase and will order the LR one. The bar cart is muted and not shiny gold. My pillows are soft linen in navy. I found some velvet ones I like and thought about changing them out for fall and possibly new ones on the sofa. I can use the navy on a long bench seat in my office once I get the cushion made. I have another post going for final touches in LR as I need a coffee table, maybe a sofa table and need some art. The adjoining office/tv room has a lot of work to be done. Yikes! Yes ITerry, I love my Proud Peacock. He is currently the only man in my life. Ha! Yes Smm that is the one I'm getting that Flo picked out. ITerry - how do I message you? I love, love your home! It's amazing.
  • 10 years ago
    Hi Flo - so I just noticed the LR light Monte Cristo is a Feiss. It also says burnished silver. You have seen it in person? Is it really gold? Bit confused about the description.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Oh my, so sorry MR. PEACOCK. I should have realized all that color, lol. So yes, hope you strike it lucky on the light fixtures. I am quite certain. I haven't seen your other posts, so I will have to see if I can pop on and find them.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Yes, I think it shows much more gold in person because all the crystals are amber. The description is not good at all and it is hard to get a good picture. The basic metal is kind of champagne silver which is that place between gold and silver and then the crystals take it toward gold. But either way, I think it works. I'll see if I can find a picture of my clients space with this one.

  • 10 years ago
    Ha! I'm hungry I guess. Meant Monte Carlo not Cristo.
  • 10 years ago

    here is my 2 cents, i worked in a lighting showroom for 10 years

    since the peacock is not wall mounted, i would before installing the picture light, the shadows will cast better.

    get an LED picture light from house of troy, not cheap, but also one of the best in the business.

    the ceiling fan was centered to the room as to the corbel that is next to the door. thought probably was the sofa would line up with that door. but this is so fixable with a simple swag. on the other hand you could widen the chairs by the fireplace and pull the sofa in a bit more. i think floor lamps and table no hanging in this space

    lastly, dont get too many light fixtures going on. looks like you need one over the dining table but you may not need one in the formal seating area.

    if you pull the sofa toward the f/p you could add a narrow sofa table and buffet lamps ( wondering if there is a floor plug)

  • 10 years ago

    Hey Frosted (it's lterry12 - I updated my profile and I have my real name now) ... Anyway, since I'm not a PRO, you can only message me an ideabook from what I have read. Feel free to use my dining room one.

  • 10 years ago

    Somewhere I saw a delicate cage chandelier in a pregnant shape. It followed lines of ceiling, which I liked. A bit like his earrings [if he were wearing any]..... Not sure the finish, was silvery. Burnished champagne/gold?

  • 10 years ago
    @downbytheriver - yes, I did have a floor plug placed under the sofa and can easily move sofa in more. I do have a very small entry way with a bronze sconce across from LR which I should have posted. Umm...so you think I should cap the fan box, hang the Peacock - correct? The painting is 40x60. If I hang the painting is there a remote picture light? I just wonder how I would turn it on and off.
  • 10 years ago

    you said there was an out let back there... but no switch how silly is that! have an electrician come in and run a switch, it wouldn't be too hard. or is the outlet recessed or flush?

    also, remove the small table in front of the vent... and hopefully you have some of the wall color paint, paint that vent lol!!

    pulling the sofa forward is a good plan i think, and space the chair a little more far apart.

    and yes cap that light for now. get the dining light in and some lamps then decided.

  • 10 years ago
    The outlet was installed and recessed for TV so it has a wall socket. I may plug in a light to see if I have a switch running to it. I do have some switches I don't know what they go to. Maybe I'll get lucky. My neighbors have a picture light with a remote. Not sure if that would be more expensive. Yes I am painting out the vents, can lights, etc., and on my 30 page to do list. I can move that little table. It was just s thought.
  • 10 years ago

    hahahaa.......... the ??switches, always makes me laugh. if it is recessed then they do make remove switches, cost about 50$ picture lights are worth their weight. so dont cheap out of the color of the light will be horrible. plus LED is the way to go, never change a bulb and good safe light for art. also no heat.


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  • PRO
    10 years ago
    You might be able to put a timer on the art light. I like hanging Mr. Peacock but don't abandon a light fixture. That would help "define" your living room space without dividing up. I have 3 pendants, and two chandeliers in my open area and as long as they "relate" to each other you are good. Also they will hang at different levels which is good. DR should hang about 30" above top of table top. Might adjust so mirror reflects it. The pendants are higher and then the Chaney in living room would be at 3 rd level. All good. But you have to decide on that. Surely don't like fan so I would get that out. I contacted my client for picture of that fixture. I will post if she is able to send to me.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    My sweet client zipped me over two photos. One with the light on and it looks more gold then, and one when it is off and it looks more silver then. Hope this just tempts you more! lol

    Lighted Marquise · More Info
    You can see more gold probably because of the amber crystals. Great combination.
    Frostedsleet fixtures · More Info
    More silvery/champagne look when off. Her ceiling and walls are SW Accessible Beige just for reference. Gorgeous piece.

  • 10 years ago
    Thanks Flo. Look forward to the picture. I promised the fan to my sister who really needs it so it will definitely be gone. Besides I have same fan in office which I need as I work from home and it cools me down on stressful days.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    I understand that!

  • 10 years ago
    Oh my...it's gorgeous. Love it! I need to think about this. My walls are accessible beige too. Tell her thank you!
  • PRO
    10 years ago
    I told you. It is simply (pun intended) elegant. Funny, same walls. "Meant to be? ".
  • 10 years ago
    My goodness I had no idea how expensive picture lighting is and now I'm confused. I have several furniture pieces to buy for LR, Master BR, lamps and artwork. I can really only afford one of the two choices. Picture light or chandelier. Umm
  • PRO
    10 years ago
    Chandelier. It will cast light on picture. Art light can wait. IMO.
  • 10 years ago

    Chandelier

  • 10 years ago

    ... and snap this on and call it a day (for now). LOL ... clearly, I live in a world of compromise ... just saying there is always the $24 "works for now" option. I'm sure there are nicer, but not perfect solutions as well. (AND a remote !)

    Rite Lite LPL606XLGRC Wireless 8 LED Picture Light w/ Remote Contro... · More Info

  • 10 years ago

    well i would get the fixture for the dining room first,then that is finished. at that time have him take down the fan to give to the person who needs it. then i would get your chairs and lamps and see how that comes together. breath... you dont need to do much the home is beautiful!

    now to remote battery picture lights........ BOO! climbing up to change the batteries sucks, and it also sucks when the light dies in the the middle of a party lol.

    wait for it!

  • 10 years ago
    Lynn - there must be many people using "it works for now" option because that light is sold out everywhere I've checked.
  • 10 years ago

    It's on EBAY too. Use this link:

    Rite Lite LPL601XLG Wireless LED Picture Light. Silver and gold version for $17.99.

  • 10 years ago

    But that's an open box item, but other sellers appear to have it too. Make sure it comes with the remote though if you get it there. Everything's a project ...

  • 10 years ago
    Flo - when you say the LR chandelier will be level 3, should it hang slightly lower than DR chandy? How do you feel about the foyer light with the two chandeliers? Do you think they argue? I want to make sure before I hit the buy now button on the LR chandy. I already put in the order for the DR chandelier.
  • 10 years ago
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    http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rite-Lite-Wireless-Gold-8-LED-Picture-Light-with-Remote-Control-LPL606XLGRC/203293090

    read the reviews lol

    The cordless feature was what attracted me to this product. However, the remote control battery was dead upon arrival and so unique that I'm having trouble finding a replacement for it. The construction is very flimsy plastic and I had to stuff paper in the hinges to keep it upright. Love the concept but hate the lack of quality in this product.

  • 10 years ago
    Isn't that the truth Lynn? I do love crossing things off my project(s) list but then again, it's always replaced with yet another. So many ideas...so many possibilities.
  • 10 years ago

    Comments about Rite Lite LPL606XLGRC Wireless 8 LED Picture Light w/ Remote Control, Gold Metal:

    Edit (Jan 2013): I've evaluated two units now and can conclude they're both failures. At best you'll get a couple hours out of fresh batteries. Returned!

    Initial review:

    (Before reading my review I'd recommend reading the Product Description by the manufacturer)

    At first I was loving this inexpensive means of lighting my images. Initially, I had also thought I had read that the LEDs are super bright and last up to 100,000 hours.

    Upon further reflection...

    Firstly, I wouldn't call this Rite Lite model's 8 LEDSs super bright.

    Secondly, the "up to 100,000 hours" must be only accurate for the LED bulbs themselves. Notice the distinction in the product description by the manufacturer. They're not saying using three AA batteries in this will allow the unit to be on for 100,000 hours, but rather that the bulbs may last that long. I'm underwhelmed.

    Whether it was an attempt to deceive or simply my inability to read precisely, I CAN say for certainty this unit will not shine on for more than around 5 hours on fully charged batteries (I use rechargeable, but have tested on two sets of non-rechargeables).

    I just want to FYI others in case they misinterpret some things as I apparently have.

    Positively, I do think it's fairly stylish and if a person only shows an image for very short periods of time they won't find themselves changing the batteries as often and may be happy enough with it.

  • PRO
    10 years ago
    I think it would hang above dining one. We will have to determine height when you hang painting, if you hang it. The dining room will hang about 60-65" above table top. So you can see the LR would be quite a bit higher I believe. I think your entry one is tucked away enough that it isn't problem. Plus you have black posts in pendants in kitchen so mixing will work fine in my view. I checked for that art light too. I suspect the can't keep production up with demand. Bet it sucks up 8 batteries fast too. Not sure of width. It doesn't list anywhere I could find. But it is a great idea. Price is sure right.
    One more thought. You will not be looking at all three at same time much at all. You might see two but it will work beautifully. If it were ornate and took up a lot of visual space that could be a problem. No worries.
  • 10 years ago

    the only reason im stressing this is because i have a lot of experience with picture lights, in homes and in galleries. even the best of the best battery LED picture lights just have their limitations. even spending 30$ is no good if the product is wasted. .. Its more likely the reason its not available anywhere....


  • 10 years ago
    Downbytheriver - yep, the reviews say it all. I will put the $24 in my go fund my picture light savings account. Lynn - we may need to pass on this one.
  • 10 years ago
    You can also utilize revilite as seen in picture below, the light then is attached to the wall or the painting and is very unobtrusive. You would have to have a plug in behind the painting.
  • 10 years ago
    Hi there Bellburgmaggie - yes, I saw those and they are very, very nice...but for a plug in and size for my 40x60 painting the cost would be $860 for the light.
  • 10 years ago

    Hey no problem. I was really just thinking there might be a "for now" option. But downbytheriver is by far the expert over me. I was thinking if company came you could turn it on. Otherwise, I'd be leaving it off. Downbytheriver, is there a plug in option that you are familiar with that would be "acceptable" ?

  • 10 years ago
    A less expensive option is listed below. I'm dealing with this issue now and I can tell you that each recessed pin point light for my oil paintings runs over $300 each, plus they had to rip out the ceiling to install them, then I had to pay for new sheet rock, skim coat of plaster, painting, plus the cost of the electrician to install. With that in mind the cost of the expensive light is far, far cheaper than the cost of installing recessed pin point LED lights. You have one painting that you want to be the rock star of the room - and it will be if you do it right. It amazes me that people think proper lighting is suppose to be cheap - it makes or breaks your room. When you look at "wow" spaces on this website, they all have professional lighting designs. And I do not understand you wanting to hand a Chandlier in the space, all it will do is block your painting - the one you asked to highlight. I think you need to decide what in this room is your focus. The chandelier or the painting.
  • 10 years ago

    thank you for saying that, Bell. it was the plight of my lighting career! i agree whole heartly! I wouldn't opt for a chandelier and I would opt for the quality light for the art, if the art was just a thought to light, then go for the chandelier.

    and most of all no good lighting is cheap, not even rope lighting hahahaha. those monte carlo fans you are taking out, 300$ a pop! anyway I love your space, and your taste and you will make the right choices. you have made a lot of great ones already.


  • 10 years ago

    Eurofase is a nice company.

  • 10 years ago

    So, Bell and Downbytheriver - clearly Frosted has something to think about ... but would you even do a $200 light on a piece of art or is it just not a good idea at all ? Clearly, I'm working on a more limited budget and was just wondering for my own interests at this point.

  • 10 years ago
    Downbytheriver, I'm not in the trade. I worked my way through college and professional school being a gofer/secretary/gal Friday working in an interior design firm back when people paid for quality interior designers. And I promise you, the top designers insist that the lighting plan be part of the overall plan. And if the client wasn't willing to pay for lighting then my principals would pass on the project. You can put up a Zuber Eldorado wallpaper in a dining room, but if no one can see it, then it matters not that you paid $75,000 for the wallpaper and another $30,000 for the installation. And what people don't understand, there is nothing that makes a room look cheap and the things in it awful than bad lighting. Beautiful rooms are always about "drama" and you can't have drama without professional lighting.
  • 10 years ago
    And if she wants WOW in a fixture, my choice.
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    As I said earlier in this thread, my view is "lighting" is everything in a space, so that is true. However, we always have to consider and respect the owner's budget and desires. In the final analysis, it is their "space" and they get to make the final decisions without feeling bad about it. So, my suggestion, is take the step that is most important to you first, then do your next priority, etc. It is a "process". You will know what needs to be done when you get there. You have an excellent eye, and a strong sense of design, so go with that "feeling" that makes rooms sing for you. It will all work out - eventually. Take your time.

  • 10 years ago

    yes hers may only be a 200 or less i still have no idea, (or i missed it) how big the piece is. and size matters lol. And I also agree, with making the choice that works for you!

  • 10 years ago
    Awesome insights and to my surprise everyone agrees ... Proper lighting is critical, homeowner chooses, and most importantly ... size does matter! Lol.