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Problems With Carrier: Heat Pump failure - unit less than 2 years old

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

Have heard/ seen stories regarding Carrier heat pump failures; (here: [https://www.houzz.com/discussions/carrier-infinity-compressor-life-expectancy-dsvw-vd~2425637[(https://www.houzz.com/discussions/carrier-infinity-compressor-life-expectancy-dsvw-vd~2425637) - https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/carrier.html and others)

My story: Local professional (registered representative) installed
Carrier 2 stage heat pump model #25HCB636A - in August 2014. By May of
this year (2016) - unit would not create cool air. Local pro (same one
who installed system) diagnosed; now says that (after consultation with
Carrier) that the condenser has failed (and Carrier acknowledges that
the unit is in warranty)... Carrier is unresponsive.

The issue: Carrier warranty will pay to replace the part - but will
not cover labor. The labor cost to replace is just under $1,000.

IF you're considering a system - I recommend you look at other vendors. Lots of data on failures of Carrier systems in very few years. As a homeowner: once the unit is installed/ you've incurred the large costs, you're "stuck" to repair it.

Comments (13)

  • 9 years ago

    The heat pump was installed too close to the wall. How did your installer ever expect to service it with no room to work? It is unlikely the close proximity caused it to fail but there is no reason to be doing this.

    There is a chance the failure was caused by a bad installation. It is hard to prove, but when I see a condenser with so little clearance around it I begin to think what other corners were cut during the installation.

    Charles Smith thanked mike_home
  • 9 years ago

    Sorry this happened to you, it stinks that you are facing this expense 2 years after installing a unit. Unfortunately it is standard in the HVAC industry to advertise long warranties which always include parts only.

  • 9 years ago

    Several good points have been brought up but there's little we can offer without specifics. To say the "condenser failed" and therefore require's replacement is akin to saying the car failed and requires replacement. As tiger aluded,a condenser is made up of several components ( one of which is properly called condenser) ,all do not fail at once. What exactly failed,and how did it fail. The point I'm making is that several components can and often do stop condensers in their tracks. $1k labor would be hi-way robbery on the majority of those components.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Klem,

    $1k labor doesn't go as far as it used to. Cost of everything has gone up since you were in the field. Not to mention warranties do not cover refrigerant, recovery, disposal etc.

    It greatly depends what part failed, but you also must realize this is a heat pump.

    I agree that the installation likely caused the failure. (lack of air flow around condenser)

  • 9 years ago

    Inflation hasn't raised the labor to $1k for contactor,hard start and caps ( top three reasons for condenser failure) and $1k is a stretch for fan motor. Main point is I would get a secound opinion if the best contractor can do is "failed condenser". It's likly irrelivent anyhow if op just dropped by to rant about Carrier products.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I'd put money on it that it's not a contactor, hard start, caps or fan motor. (it's 2 years old)

    #due to picture... ah, job security in full force.

  • 9 years ago

    A. Air,will you speak in terms average Joes understand? This is a self help,diy forum ,not try to solve this riddle if you can deal.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Air conditioning and heating is not a DIY job. Manufacturer's void warranties for those trying to DIY.

    #The more you know.

  • 9 years ago

    I consider myself a joe (average). I appreciate that warranty "policy" and industry practice is what it is... but that doesn't make it right. My father was an HVAC pro/ contractor - and I remember it being different when he was active in the field. ... Thanks to all - the "pro's and the joe's" - on the thread.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    All things considered, the manufacturer would be well within their rights to deny warranty coverage for this condenser due to 'improper installation'.

    'Doesn't make it right': When rules aren't followed, regardless of whom does it... nothing is right. If it's not right to begin with, you can't force it to be 'right' now, unless you start over.

  • 3 years ago

    At this very moment, my outdoor unit is being replaced on a Carrier less than 2 years old. We have had nothing but problems with both the indoor and outdoor unit. Already had to put a new coil in the indoor unit. Fortunately, the company who installed and serviced hasn't charged us anything. We suspect maybe a bad install originally or a defective product. OR BOTH!! At least Carrier agreed to replace the outdoor unit at no cost to us. At the company who installed originally is not charging us for labor. NEVER GET ANOTHER CARRIER!!

  • 3 years ago

    Random failures happen to all manufacturers. Carrier is no worse than anyone else. Lucky for you your installers isn't charging for the warranty parts replacement labor.