In my condominium complex nearly everyone with a fireplace has a TV mounted over it. I don't. Just don't like the look of an up to 60 inch "black hole" hovering over the fireplace as you view programs with your head tilted up as if you were sitting in the first row of an IMax movie theater. I have a medium sized (40 inch) TV which fits perfectly in a space next to the fireplace. As for the mantel, my husband and I enjoy decorating it for each season.

Artwork is best viewed when the center is at eye-level...or so I've read for years. When you're sitting, eye-level drops. Watching a TV screen placed over a fireplace is probably terrific for people who love sitting in the first row of a movie theatre...but not my cup of tea. And then, there's the aesthetics....

Tv above fireplace is ALWAYS to high...and who wants to see a tv there anyways !

I really liked the designs where the tv was not above the fireplace, but IMHO many family rooms would need to be redesigned to accommodate these designs unless they are large. Without enough space for entertainment centers, many rooms simply do not have a better location for their large flat screen TVs than above their fireplaces. Also, with smart TVs comes the ability to display beautiful photography or artwork above your fireplace as well. It boils down to space and budget limitations, and of course, personal preference.

i voted for. our tv sits on the mantle above a fireplace insert. everyone that has come into this house has loved our set up...man or woman. the neck strain thing is ridiculous, unless you are up to close to the tv. As Mr. Clawson pointed out, in a recliner it is BETTER. So, alot depends on the size of the room and furniture placement....just one of many things that affect a families decision on where to place the tv. Its a matter of personal opinion, wall space, size of the room...etc. when it comes to tv placement.
And I am in construction business Ms Susan Arlitt, and can design any room or house as good or better than any designer. All I need to know is a general idea of what a person wants. Simply put, it comes down to what the customer wants for a "designer" or contractor to get it right. Your notion that a designer has more ability to layout a room is ridiculous as it is the customers idea of the room that is being brought to life, and all a designer can do is offer suggestions. And you may need therapy for some kind of anger issue it sounds like, and talk about arrogance! lol

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Spot on!

There should have been an other box to check! I never say never , ever! Every home is different, and everyone's situation is too! We are living in modern times and our homes should meet today's needs . They are not museums. While it may be beautiful to have an accessorized fireplace in an older home it just might not be practical either! If the room is to small , has too many windows or doors you might not have any choice. While everyone is screaming "Don't put the tv over the fireplace"! The poor OP is stuck with it balancing on a TV tray on the side which looks just awful! Hmmm, I'm often left wondering if a fireplace is worth all the trouble!

They do not discuss having paintings that lift up to expose the TV underneath. This option allows for both a lovely look of a traditional fireplace yet having a TV in the living room. There are also mirrors which allow the TV screen to be seen behind it when on and roll up paintings. Both points of view seem to be behind the times.

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Two reasons I am against:

1. Too high.

2. Electric and Fire close to each other doesn't go with me.

We love fireplaces.We have had a TV over the fireplace ever since thin screens came out. We have a split piece of artwork that covers the TV when its not being viewed. The art work is hinged and opens for viewing.
The TV's mounting bracket is articulated for comfortable viewing.

One of the examples you displayed in the debate was a long horizontal tube. Viewing a long gas tube is so far from a real fire that you might as well turn on the burners on your kitchen gas stove and watch that. How's that for romance. Some high quality gas burners come close to a wood burning fire, but many clearly fall short.

It depends on each individual home and homeowner. For us, we're pretty much limited to the fireplace wall because one wall is all glass and the facing walls have large art pieces that play across the room at each other. Even if it weren't for the art, we would want to put an entertainment cabinet on either of those two walls because it breaks up the wall height (30ft). I'd prefer to keep the TV hidden away, but until we can figure out how to make that happen, the TV remains above the fireplace and the entertainment center cabinet is in the formal living room.

You put it where it works for you.

If television viewing is your main priority, then maybe it's time to get rid of the fireplace. Use your picture in picture feature on that smart TV for a fireplace. And aren't we more 'glued' to our phones than anything else?

No TV, so moot point for me. Watch TV or Fire in fireplace? Guess I am too pragmatic. Figure the heat radiating from the chimney and any blowback of smoke or soot would not be good for electronics or the new screens. Ash is an abrasive.

If it makes sense in your room then do it....I have both a living and family room and only one tv in the house....I put it over the fireplace but is still not the focus of the room because of the pool...I really like it there and I can watch while making dinner or doing anything else in my multipurpose kitchen/family/breakfast room. Wouldn't have it any other way....

Over a fake fireplace sure

Never understood the idea. Too high for comfort. Takes away from the actual fireplace (much like crowded mantles do). When it is not on, its just a black box.

depends on how you build it. I agree with you in many instances I've seen though.

I absolutely HATE the TV over the fireplace. Practically, it is very uncomfortable. More importantly, as Tamara Leicester mentioned, the TV does not need to be the center of attention for any home. I cringe as I witness America bow down daily before the "god" of television. Aesthetically, at best it speaks of low imagination. Your home should reflect your interests, beliefs and joys. Put up that art you love! Make a collage of things that make you happy. Show that sculpture! Arrange your photographs. Do SOMETHING beside that television!

I agree, sails365, with your view of the long horizontal blue flame, which is somehow supposed to be viewed as a fireplace. To me, they look like an aquarium after the Apocalypse. Those videos of traditional fireplaces (popular at Christmastime) are more interesting to contemplate.

I've lived in 3 house in the last 10 years that have/had fireplaces. If I can find another place for the TV I have. I feel like the TV takes away from the special evening and ambience a fire creates. And I don't always looking at a fireplace unless there is a fire in it. So I'll keep them separate - unless there is just no other way to work it into the room.

As a Custom Audio Video Installation Specialist for 15 years, I have always and will remain to support my client's decision in the choice. I always educate them before the installation process begins and offer multiple solutions for mounting and disguising the TV. There are companies like Seura & Visionart that specialize in hiding while not in use. Dynamic Mounting (pictured) for lowering to a suitable height when in use. Custom cabinetry might also be an option for gas-log fireplaces as long as they meet code*.

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A TV over the fireplace would not work in our house. Our mantle is about 5 ft high, the TV would be too high to watch comfortably. When we had a TV, we had it on a low TV stand that was perfect height for viewing from the couch.

I'm against any television in the house, period! Haven't watched it in more than 10 years and don't miss it.

I have had tv's over fire places, they are always placed too hight for comfortable viewing, so no, don't do it.

I don't think it is a yes or no. Every case is different. Sometimes there is no option. If it is a wood burning fireplace you have to check the heat factor. Otherwise I think it is up to each individual case.

TVs are ugly. Fireplaces are pretty. The math - even without concerns about viewing height/distance - is simple.

I don't want to see a TV *anywhere* unless it's turned on and showing something I want to watch. TVs are ugly. Mine are hidden even in my family/media room (lift cabinet, doors).

Television is a personal choice. creatureofchaos solved the issue for themselves in a way I would have suggested--hide it unless you are using it. For others, it is NOT an issue.

I'd never put mine over a mantle because it unbalances that side of the room. (probably too high AND could be damaged by heavy use of a fireplace). I've also mostly lived in old houses where the firebox and the mantle are rather high. Modern houses have lower fireboxes so placement may indeed work, especially in new spaces with open plans and very little wall space.

I'm about to hang one of mine centered on the framing of white built in bookcases which have a right and left section. I "wish" TV frame was white or silver. It isn't. But at least it will be the spot's focal point, balanced in its placement AND functional for our needs. Getting electric to it may be the bigger issue!

Evolution of the fireplace and the television is here.

Nothing a fireplace can do the Audiolier.com can't do better. Smell, heat, sound and fire. It's totally safe. Best fires and they can be changed. Why all the headaches of the fireplace and the maintenance. Evolution of the fireplace and the HDTV is coming and will become the focal point of today's home. It's a thought. Model shown is 70" television.

Televisions in the home are a fact of life. And the large HDTV are a modern miracle connected to the Internet. To enjoy the the television you must have good sound system and that is a big problem. The other problem is the television must be mounted so that it at eye level viewing to be enjoyed. The big problem with the television it's not decorative like everything in the room. The solution is to redefine the fireplace and make the television the focal point. It can be done.

I have a beautiful painting abovey fireplace . Everyone that comes in loves my home. The warmth of the fire and the beauty of the art does it all

It depends on the size and the look of the space.

i would spend more time downstairs if allowed a TV over the fireplace....but alas, it's verboten. Ergo, i hang out in the 'dog room' or bedroom, two places where there is a tv.

Why NOT BOTH - lots of ways to hide the TV, suggest fire proof mantel under TV and out 6 inches or so to deflect heat away from face of wall/TV. and keep fireplace low - lots of ways to do this - to have comfortable viewing angle. Close TV when company comes - not a distraction, open when the game starts? - Best of both!

Ohfergoshsakes. What works for you & your home layout? There are no hard & fast rules. The fireplace surround at our house in a open living space with windows all along one wall facing the lake is dark to camouflage the TV over the fireplace. The rest of the room is a cool beige. Art flanks them both, occupies the facing wall, & kitchen/dining space. I can work in the kitchen & still see nightly news. We don't sit right on top of the TV (buy big enough or go low) in a truncated couch & there is seating close to the fireplace as well. The gallery room showcases the larger art collection & the piano as guests come in the front door. Live optimally in your space & leave others to optimize theirs judgement free.

In this project I separated the television and fireplace within the same space. I believe the design emphasizes the continuity of space for a loft-like environment.

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I'm late to the party on this thread, but wanted to weigh in on the value of fireplaces or wood stoves in a home in the first place. Not all of us live in the city or in suburbia, and there are those of us who heat our homes with wood out of necessity, and not for mere aesthetic reasons. The T.V. is utilized in our home only for watching videos...either for education or entertainment purposes. (I will not watch commercial T.V. any more.) So the T.V. gets its own spot on a wall opposite the fireplace. If I had a fireplace of an appropriate design, I wouldn't mind mounting the T.V. above it and covering it with a movable piece of artwork as a previous poster suggested. I'd rather situate it to one side, however, if at all possible so that I can view both!

If you are a purely functional driven person , its an obvious choice. If you are visual & strive to create a unique look in your home, it is not an appealing option.

Against. Throw in some 3-D viewing glasses and you all look like a bunch of idiots watching a solar eclipse. The mantel is for seasonal decorations, not upward TV viewing.

@misscorl1 - what is it that you feel is functional about a TV over a fireplace? Can't be the viewing angel as that's all wrong, as is usually the proper viewing distance. So in my opinion this is not a functional place to put the TV.

And it certainly is not a pleasing look unless you are able to hide it. ootockalockatuvik_7a is correct in that the mantle - if there is one, is a place for decorative items, though not just seasonal. If no mantle then the wall above should be nicely decorated with art, mirror etc.

A fireplace with or without a mantle (as so many of the newer linear ones give different options) is a focal point and should be pleasing to look at. It's so much nicer to spend time in a room that is well laid out, functional and nicely appointed. Keep in mind that when the TV is off - it's just a black hole.

For those who want to hide the TV, have a look at the new Samsung Frame TV - such a brilliant idea!

The debate goes on!

@Danniels-French Design. Allow me to clarify my comment, as I believe you've misunderstood my meaning ... I would never have a television over a fireplace mantel (unless there was absolutely no other option and I would hide it for the exact reasons you've mentioned).

I am an extremely visual person ,not everybody is visual. People who are less motivated by style or aesthetics (ie...more oriented to the functional aspects, tend to place their televisions on a main wall in the room , they spend the most time. Function over form.

My comment was on different motivations ...so no need to lecture as you're preaching to the choir :-)

@misscorl1 - my apologies for missing your preference! Regardless, I still do not see it as functional unless people like a sore neck!! Or I guess they have nice recliners or theater seats that somewhat help. :-)

I vote for having the TV in the fireplace.

I love old threads.

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Against! Even if you could move the TV down to a comfortable viewing level (using a narrow profile gas fireplace) the heat emitted can't be good for the set. As they say, that's a "hard no".

Bought a new build with tv over fireplace. TV became damaged from very limited fireplace use over 4 years

My neck is hurting thinking about the tv over the fireplace!

Against -- but I also wouldn't put the TV where it is in the photo. That's a ridiculously useless spot - if you're going to watch TV, put it somewhere useful.

Samsung Frame TV was our compromise. I don't feel, as many do, that one gets extra "high ground" points for not having a tv at all; watching is something that our family enjoys doing together. We've got an electric fireplace, a mantel for decorating as the season suggests, and changeable art above. Win/win/win.