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Any help for deck boards oozing sap?

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

X-posted in Porches and Decks, but wanted to make sure this was seen :)

Had all the deck boards, pickets, had railings replaced, steps
rebuilt (rot). I know I should have not let him stain it so soon (about 3
weeks or so after he finished, used Cabot Semi-transparent stain in oak
brown), but I did. At least half of the deck boards (18-19 of them,
can't recall right offhand) have sap oozing out. The really bad ones he
will be replacing, probably 4 or 5, don't know yet until his "guy" shows
up. I don't think he will do anything else (big to-do that has been
going on for months).

Is there a way for me (or someone else that I hire if I can find
someone reliable!) to strip off the stain from the rest of the boards
and stop the oozing? Most of the boards it's small spots/drops. If it's
really hot outside (central NC so it gets hot!), the sap melts, and if
you step in it, its all sticky and gets on your shoes, so I can't leave
it as is. I was not able to use the deck at all this summer.

I sure hope I don't have to pay someone else to replace all the boards.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!


EDIT: guess I should say, this is the regular decking boards from Lowes in NC, not redwood/cedar/etc.

Comments (12)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Cleanup and sealing info

    http://www.homeadditionplus.com/Deck-Info/Removing_Sap_From_Deck_Boards.htm

    Another technique involving baking the sap out and handplaning it off (obviously not going to work in your situation)

    http://www.finewoodworking.com/2011/10/14/how-to-set-wood-sap

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Thanks for that info. However, a lot of the places on the boards not being replaced are not near a knot. I will try the Goo Gone and/or turpentine and see if i can find someone who will strip the boards and just leave them natural until the spring I guess. Maybe by then all the remaining sap will be out.

    How hard is it to strip basically brand new stain?

  • 10 years ago

    Oh, I know it's not the stain causing the oozing. I want to remove the stain so all the deck boards match. I am not staining the replacement boards until I know for sure that they are good, and I want to wait for the others to stop oozing, too. Personally, I think it's the deck guy's responsibility to fix all of this as I paid over $2,200 for this, but he is only replacing the ones that are really bad, like they have sap running the whole length and width of the board.

    I hired someone to do this; basically rebuilt my deck - replaced two support posts that had rotted, extended the length (went from 12X14 to 18X14) and replaced all the deck boards/pickets/hand rails, and rebuilt the steps because the stringers had rotted at the ground. I don't think I had any input as to where he bought the materials. I assumed they would be OK. Guess I learned my lesson.

  • 10 years ago

    Deck boards where there is sap and or had sap removed will not accept stain like boards where there is no sap. Chemicals to remove sap can sometime also effect the woods ability to accept stain. Cleanwoode is one of the few I know will remove sap and can be stained over. Unfortunately you more than likely have southern yellow pine which if not deck grade material will be one of the sappiest woods known. Technically just about all wood can have sap, if you want a guarantee of no sap you get composite.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I agree, may want to go with composite in the future if you want to completely avoid. Or not attempt a stain until years later when you know sap is done coming out.

  • 10 years ago

    Question. I've built and repaired several decks, composite, cedar, white oak and PT woods. Never had a sap problem.

    In fact, the only sap problem I ever had was with 1 by pine lumber. And that is definitely NOT decking by any stretch.

    What kind of deck wood has sap still in it?

  • 10 years ago

    The deck boards at Lowes according to the website are pressure treated yellow pine 1 X 5.5's.


  • 10 years ago

    I have seen it some back a few years ago when I ran a couple lumberyards in Cedar, #2 PT decking and occasionally Premium PT. Usually if there was some most of the pallet would have it as well.

  • 10 years ago

    Ok, must be YellaWood, never used that yet(came out after I retired). There are several types of pine used as decking, Southern yellow pine, white pine, and Ponderosa pine. All have sap problems, I have a feeling the stuff from Lowe's is processed as fast as possible (and may be lesser quality)as I have seldom had the same problem with decking from Home Depot or an independent lumber yard.

    However there is a discrepancy. 1 by(in lumber language) is actually 3/4" thick. Too thin for decking floors. Deck flooring lumber is either 5/4"(actual 1&1/8" thick) or 2 by(actual 1&1/2" thick).

    I know it is confusing. Reason is lumber is sawn at a saw mill to nominal rough sawn thicknesses. That means a 2x4 is actually 2" thick and 4" wide. But it has saw marks and splinters. To smooth the surfaces and remove splinters, the board is planed in a machine(called a planer). That removes about 1/4" of material from each face and edge. Total is 1/2" for the width and the thickness, making a 2x4 now 1&1/2" by 3&1/2" actual dimensions.

    Decking is a bit different, as the amount removed is 1/8" from each face and 1/4" from the edges---while rounding over those edges. That makes a 5/4 by 6" decking board an actual 1&1/8" thick and 5&1/2" wide.

    I know this is splitting hairs, but it is really important for the folks using the lumber.

    Incidently, houses built(at least locally) before 1930 were built using 2" by 4" (actual dimensions) rough cut white oak studs and rafters. It is virtually impossible to pull the nails used in the construction when remodeling.

  • 4 years ago

    I also have the same issue. I am 66 yrs old and have NEVER seen anything like this mess! If I knew who to sue, I would! I also put 3 coats of stain, is all ruined! I plan to remove the sap with my hot gun but right now it's 105° and this deck mess is between house to my pool!


  • 4 years ago

    Since this post got bumped, I can give you an update. They guy never replaced any of the deck boards, he ghosted me. All the new wood the guy used (posts, joists but not the deck boards) rotted, and I had to have the whole thing torn down and rebuilt, by someone else of course. October 21 someone came and did some temporary repair to keep it form falling down, and I finally got it rebuilt this past spring. Learned my lesson!