Yes. I've seen it listed as "Sansevieria trifasciata 'Moonshine', also called Silver Snakeplant". I went with one pot and a few days waiting before first water.

Floorwalker:

I have one like these, sold to me as a "Silbersee Moonshine", and 2 sold to me as just Moonshine, and the plants growth looks very different, so I've always wondered if they are one and the same or 2 varieties of the same cultivar... idk... if you find out, please let me know...

Moonshine is the official name with International Sansevieria Society. I've heard the name Silbersee before, it's either a made-up name or perhaps one out of Europe. Europeans often have different names for sans than we do.

Mary, interesting that your two Moonshines from different sources don't look the same. How are they different? Pics would be good if you don't mind posting them.

Russ

Russ!

Thanks for the input, I know sellers make up all sorts of names or mis-label plants a lot...

First is the one sold to me as a "Silbersee Moonshine"

My other two are the ones sold as just "Moonshine" I only posted one pic because they're basically identical.

This is when I first purchased them, now that they have grown more they still continue to look very different.

Thanks!

Hello, your "Silbertsee Moonshine" might be a Futura Platinum Princess. It's a sub-genre of Moonshine which stays brighter after aging. The other Moonshine's old leaves should become a darker green, maybe with time the difference will be greater.

Savantfou.

Thanks for those pics Mary. The Silbersee looks like a new offset while the Moonshine is obvously a much older plant and is a bit greener overall. It will be interesting to see if the Silbersee also turns greener as it ages, please let us know how this goes.

I've heard of Platinum Princess, I thought it was simply a European name for Moonshine. Thanks for that info, Savant Fou.

Russ

Thanks for those pics Mary. The Silbersee looks like a new offset while the Moonshine is obvously a much older plant and is a bit greener overall. It will be interesting to see if the Silbersee also turns greener as it ages, please let us know how this goes.

I've heard of Platinum Princess, I thought it was simply a European name for Moonshine. Thanks for that info, Savant Fou.

Russ

Yes, thanks... the difference is not only in the color, but also in the growing style and the width of the leaves...

The sans in the top pic does look to be a bigger, more robust plant. But the next offset from the bottom plant could catch up to the top one. It'll be interesting to see how all this plays out.

Thanks Mary,

Russ

Here is a translation of comments at the German website Sanseverix.com regarding Platinum Princess. The website shows a comparison of two sans, one of lighter color than the other.

There is no detailed information about this!

This plant shows the same color as the young leaves of Sans on all leaf parts. Trif. 'Moonshine: light silvery green with very narrow green edge. Even old leaves retain this light color, while the old leaves remain at Sans. Trifasciata 'Moonshine' become dark green.

My plant is in the winter in the room and here the leaves because of sunlight is also darker. There is, however, a clear difference between Sans. Trifasciata 'Moonshine'!

The following two photos were made available to sanseverix.com by Monika G.! Thank you so much!

Real proof that Platinum Princess is different from Moonshine would be to start new offsets of the same age and grow them next to each other into maturity. Seeing these comparisons of random examples aren't convincing to me, but it is fascinating that there might be a clone that stays more silver with age. I hope it turns out to be a fact.

Russ

I have the chance to own one of each cultivar (Moonshine and Platinum princess), but they are young. I placed them in the same growing conditions (soil, light, temp). In a couple of years I'll be able to document the difference, if there is one !

Savantfou.

Me too Savant Fou, then we'll compare... haha!

When I looked them up long ago, Silbersee translate to mean Silver. It's also the name of a lake in Germany. I also would like to know in years how they grow side by side.

My normal Moonshine.

My special Moonshine with green banding which I love. Stays smaller also.

I don't have a picture of it but the one above has a all silver pup that is growing large. I will remove it and give away come spring. It is over 4 inches in two months. The above Moonshine is 'stacking' for me.

Stush, both your regular Moonshine and the greener one are beautiful. It will be interesting to see if the greener one offsets back to silver or keeps the color and the banding. If it does the latter, you might have a brand new cultivar on your hands.

You grow a mean sans my friend! Do you grow exclusively indoors under lights, or outside and inside? Everything I've ever seen of yours is always very well grown.

Russ

Stush, that sans is so pretty....

My
'Platin Princess' is from the same Monika G.(Sanseverix.com).

I
have the plant for four months and it is growing slowly and is standing inside near a
south window, three hours sunlight per day.

Pictures
in my Ideabook here.

Liberyx, I notice all your pics except masoniana are trifasciata cultivars. Do you collect species as well, or mostly variegated or unusual sans? I collect any and all, variegation is a bonus but every sans has something interesting about it to me.

I do understand lack of growing room for some collectors, and the need to make careful choices about which plants to trade for or buy. I don't know how many different species and cultivars there are today, I'm thinking well over two hundred and maybe a lot more. Even half that number would be far too many for some apartment dwellers.

I see you are in Germany, do you find access to sans easier there than in Poland? I assume Monika G is in Germany, I hope she is a possible source for you now that Ernst Specks' organization has closed.

You might turn on your messaging tab in Preferences.

Russ

Hello,

Russ, Monika G is in Germany, she is a great source of rare cultivars on e-bay. I bought most of my Sans from her this summer via e-bay. I think she sells 10-15 Sans per week during the summer ! She also is the source of some pics on sanseverix.com.

Liberyx we may have competed for some auctions in july ...

Savantfou.

Russ, Right now most of my sans are in my basement. Few lights and suffer before coming out for the summer. Then It's outside, mostly on my porch which shields them from the rain but only gives them morning sun. It puped the same once and gave to Chris. The original came from Barb's gift by a rhizome start. This is the first pup that is all silver and reverted. Why I am removing it. Chris said there is one like it that stays hahnii size, but this is just a tiny bit larger.

Keeping my eye on that 'Platin Princess'.

Thanks for that info, Savant Fou. I wish we had better sans sources here in the States, and I don't like the process of having to bid on Ebay to get plants. Just give me a price, bidding feels like betting and gambling. I did see on sanseverix.com that Monika's sans are well represented there. So she sells on European Ebay, is that what it's called or is it Ebay for Germany?

Well Stush, at least the plants in the basement are out of danger from weather even though they're not in ideal conditions. Keep us posted with pics of those sans.

Russ

Russ, I have no plan for collecting. I buy what I like. Sometimes, however, a coincidence decides. For example, I've got some species from Monika G. as extra to my purchases on eBay and I'm very happy about that too. I do not know her face-to-face, but she seems to be a very nice and friendly person.

So I have also other popular species like S. parva, S. fischeri, S. ehrenbergii, S. fernwood, S aubrytiana. Yes, my place gets tight and I have to pay attention to it.

I started collecting Sans in Germany, so a comparison with Poland is difficult for me, but there are many Sans enthusiasts there. My home forum is here but I read polish Sans forum from time to time too.

Savantfou, yes Monika G. sells many sans on eBay and yes I purchased several plants from her in July… the world is small.

Russ I am excited by this plant from Stush, seemingly (hopefully) a mutation from 'Moonshine' that is much more hahni like in shape and leaf number. Looks kind of like silver hahni to me, but not exactly....larger than a typical hahni thus far. Both Stush and I will have to see if it pups true. Obviously he has a reversion to regular 'Moonshine' with his latest pup, and mine has not yet pupped.

Somewhat unrelated there exists a 'Moonshine' with the addition of random, variegated white stripes in it.........I have not seen this in the USA but I would LOVE to grow this Sans. There is also a 'Moonshine' with extra green longitudinal stripes in it which doesn't do it for me for some reason LOL!

Russ, we can filter auctions by country or choose to see all europeans auctions. France is well situated, we share a border with Spain, Italy, Germany, Belgium, UK ... so buying from all those countries is safe and delivery is really quick !

I also prefer buying at a fixed price but seldom sellers choose this option, I suppose bids are more profitable for them.

Liberyx, I also appreciate the little gifts Monica G. puts with each purchase (a baby Silver Princess and a little S. francisii for me this summer).

Next spring I'll be following her auctions with attention !

Savantfou.

Trick with Ebay, wait until the auction is almost over. Last 10 minuets or so. Then bid. I won several that way. Most had only 1 or 2 bids. Once it gets over $20, forget it. Also I hate to buy a plant for $3 with $16 shipping. Forget that also. Some ship US First Class for under $5 while most over charge even for Priority Mail 2 day. Overseas is too risky.

Woodnative, I found these 2 types of Moonshines in past pages in our forum; from 2013 specifically; both gorgeous plants... I too wish they were available in the states...

Variegated Moonshine...

Brazilian Moonshine...

Mary thank you I remember seeing that! The first one I drool over lol! Here is my one from Stush I love love this plant can't wait to see if it pups true to form!

Gorgeous plant Woodnative... is that a Moonshine or Green Hahnii???

To me it looks like a Moonshine that's got just a little Robusta mixed in. I guess it's entirely possible offsets could revert to that cultivar since leaf cuttings produce Robusta, but I think offsets are more likely to be what this one is, something in-between.

I like the second pic Mary posted, such odd variegation.

Stush, I'm with you on the piling-on of profit by charging way more postage than the actual cost, I don't buy from those sellers. I also have a price ceiling that I normally won't bid over, about $30 or so. Years ago I think I paid $78 for a variegated Monstera deliciosa when Asiatica was up and running, but prior offerings went for between $100 and $150.

Russ