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Light requirements

9 years ago

Hello,

I am visiting from the houseplants board with a question for the sans experts. I recently acquired a small sans, which I have fallen in love with. Last night, I noticed it is growing a new pup.

since I've had it, the sans has been in my northern facing kitchen in very low light, barely any light. I was wondering if I could move it to a southern window with tons of light to help the new pup grow and perhaps encourage more robust growth.

i should add that I live in the desert, so southern light is pretty strong here.

I'd welcome any advice on the lighting as well as what to do to encourage the plant to grow.

thank you

Comments (18)

  • 9 years ago

    Hi, and thank you. I don't know what kind. It's just green:). I really like it.

  • 9 years ago

    Lauren, if you want to post a picture of your sans, we can tell you which one it is if that's something you'd like to know. As much light as you can give it short of direct afternoon sun is best, but as Woodnative said, let it acclimate to brighter light over a week or two. If you keep it in very low light, it will 'stretch' and won't be the compact, beautiful plant it could be.

    Russ

    Lauren (Zone 9a) thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 9 years ago

    Hi Russ, always an absolute pleasure to run into you:). Here is a picture of my cute little sans

  • 9 years ago

    Hi Lauren, thank you! This is a Hahnii type, but the pic is too dark to see details. I don't see any banding but if it has bands it's a regular Hahnii. If the leaf is all one-color of green with no banding or markings, it is Jade Dwarf. Let me know which one it is and I can tell you more about your sans.

    Russ

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  • 9 years ago
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    Hi Russ,

    when I click on picture, it comes up pretty clear. It is totally green, no stripes or markings at all. Is it too young to have markings? If not, then it must be a dwarf as you said! I am so excited to have a name for it. Thank you!

    i would very grateful for anything you could tell me about it.

  • 9 years ago

    All one dark color means it's Jade Dwarf, Lauren. If you happen to break or cut a leaf, you can stick it in soil mix and get more of the same. Some Hahnii's and other trifasciata varieties propagate true, others produce different cultivars from their leaves.

    There is a Jade Dwarf Marginated, which is your plant with bright yellow edges. You might check at your Home Depot for one, I see them at mine fairly often for less than $4.

    Russ

    Lauren (Zone 9a) thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, Russ:). I'm going to go tomorrow to see if they have the marginated one. Then I can plant them together.

    Russ, how dry can this one get before I need to water? It is completely dry now, but I don't want to overwater it, as the directions said to be mindful of this.

  • 9 years ago

    Lauren, sans in general can tolerate very long periods without water, but they won't grow and eventually leaves will lose their moisture. But trifasciata and varieties in particular don't like to dry out completely.

    If the root ball is completely dry you've waited too long to water, it'd be better if you do it sooner. The 'don't overwater' instructions are good, but that means don't keep it constantly wet. With going bone-dry, you have the added problem of the mix not wanting to re-wet again throughout the root ball. Peat moss especially does this in a mix.

    You have to be careful in changing watering patterns if you've been keeping it this dry for more than a few weeks, increase watering very slowly. How were you watering? A little at a time? A full watering until it comes out the bottom of the pot but only very seldom?

    If you can't find a Jade Dwarf Marginated locally you might post a request for one here 'for postage'. I don't have an extra but someone else might. If it would be worth it to you to pay an extra $3.88 + tax, plus postage, I can buy one for you and send it.

    Russ

  • 9 years ago

    Russ, that is very kind of you. I would be more than happy and grateful to handle the reimbursement and shipping costs. Thank you.

    Ive only watered it once before, when I got it. Last night, I watered it very slowly and I didn't saturate it. The mix it is in is very fast, thank goodness. I decided to wait for your response before watering more.

    so, don't let it dry out completely but don't keep it too moist? Should I add a bit more water today? I only watered enough to wet the soil. Also, I got worried about getting the leaves wet because I read somewhere that this is not good to do. Should I water from the bottom?

    I am surprised at how much I love this little plant.

  • 9 years ago

    I really want this one:

  • 9 years ago

    Lauren, a few questions. Can you tell what kind of mix it's in? How long was it between the first watering when you got it and the one you gave it last night? If it was a long time between waterings, I wouldn't water it again for awhile. It has to slowly get used to having water at closer intervals.

    It's best to keep water off the leaves but you don't have to be too careful, it's just that overhead watering can possibly cause disease issues on leaves.

    The tall sans in your pic is trifasciata Laurentii, perhaps the most popular houseplant ever.

    Russ

  • 9 years ago

    HI Russ,

    i absolutely love that plant in the picture! For mine, the soil seems to be some kind of coir chip mix. The water flows right through it and it does not hold. It last watering before last night was about two weeks earlier. I've not added any water since last night"s light watering.

    i moved it to the southern room but away from the window to get it acclimated to light slowly.

    It has a little pup growing, too:).

  • 9 years ago

    Two weeks, that's a long time. I would wait awhile before watering again, and with winter coming on it might be especially sensitive to water now.

    We talked about coir in the Black Cardinal thread, I assume the coir chips you mention absorb quite a bit of water. It'd be interesting to know how long it takes for that potting mix to go completely dry.

    Cool about the pup, it's always great to see new life in a pot.

    Russ

  • 9 years ago

    Russ,

    ill keep tabs on it to see how long it takes to dry. I'm going to take this plant to the hydroponics shop and ask them what exactly is this mix. It drains like nothing I've seen. It feels like paper and straw.

    But I will report back with drying time stats. :)

  • 9 years ago

    Peat when very dry will let water run right thru it. It has to soak to absorb the water but by then it's too much water. That's why we use a cactus mix with much extra perlite in it for proper drainage. Myself I use lots of granite grit, sold in feed stores as poultry grit. I have seen plants in BBS's all dried and dead but the Sans. They did fine with out the water. Store was cool and just the lights in the store.

  • 9 years ago

    Ha! Nothing left but the sans and the zz plants! Lol. I often wonder how Home Depot has the shamelessness to put out those plants as saleable items. A plant has be tough to make it through a Home Depot display!

  • 9 years ago

    Truth be told, it was K-Marts. And they didn't discount them. Manager thru the whole load in the trash. I even complained to them about it. My Home Depot don't discount but they send them all back to the supplier. Must have an agreement with them. WalMarts and Lowes have a discount racks and sell them reduced extremely low and with a good chance of recovery.

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